Define "Fuel Stove"

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Define "Fuel Stove"

Postby forest » Fri 19 Aug, 2011 12:06 pm

Just wondering what specifically makes a stove classed as a "fuel stove"
I'm not being smart or anything, I understand the most common type will be a gas canister stove.
Also I have seen alcohol/metho/shelite type stoves freely used on "fuel stove" only tracks without a problem with rangers etc.

What about a bush buddy / wood type stove. The flame is contained within the stove, so it's not an open fire in any way. :?:
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Re: Define "Fuel Stove"

Postby Lindsay » Fri 19 Aug, 2011 12:20 pm

The definition of a fuel stove used by the various Parks services seems to be any stove where you carry your own fuel with you. This prevents bushfires and the destruction of habitat caused by using wood for fuel. While technically you could carry your own wood for a bush buddy, I don't see it as being a practical option, therefore I would say a bush buddy or similar wood fuelled stove would be outside the accepted definition of a fuel stove.
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Re: Define "Fuel Stove"

Postby Marwood » Fri 19 Aug, 2011 1:29 pm

As a Bush Buddy owner, I've also pondered this. I seems the basis for the fuel stove only rules (versus total fire ban rules) are to stop people making campfires due to the bushfire risk and environmental damage from firewood collection, making fire pits, fire scars, ash deposition, wood smoke, etc. Obviously the bushfire risk with a Bush Buddy is mush lower than with a campfire, and the environmental damage from a Bush Buddy is negligible to non-existent. Having said that, I doubt you could successfully argue that the current rules don't apply to Bush Buddy use - and I think it would be difficult if not impossible to write the rules in such a way that they forbade campfires but didn't apply to lighweight wood stoves.

What I find really frustrating though is the lack of information here in NSW about which areas in which NPs are fuel stove only and where fires are allowed. There's almost no information on the NPWS website, and the signage in parks is often non-existent or contradictory. From the number of fire scars I see around campsites in supposedly fuel stove only areas, it seems that the regulations aren't well respected or strongly enforced in any case.
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Re: Define "Fuel Stove"

Postby Leppy » Sun 21 Aug, 2011 8:36 pm

Interesting question. I has always just thought the it refered to fuel as in alcohol stoves, but since when wasn't wood fuel? I guess it could be discussed with national parks that the bush buddy works with he stove part of it as opposed to a open fire. Not having a bush buddy I will remain sitting over here in my blackbird wishing I did.
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