My personal hammock set up

[HitchHiking]

I didn't think this post belonged in the lightweight tent discussion as it was getting further from the OP but here is my hammock set up with weights of each individual parts for those who are interested. Some items are optional and wouldn't necessarily be needed as they are only for extra comfort.Others can be interchanged for lighter and heavier (cooler and warmer) options

I think it can be seen how the hammock has its advantages and disadvantages.

Anyhow I hope its enjoyed.

[ninjapuppet]

Thanks hitchhiking! I'm looking fora hammock for summer camping and find this very informative.

sorry, but hammock-newbie question here - whats a whoopie sling? is that the strap that goes from the hammock to the carabiner?

and did you get them off warbonnet too?

[HitchHiking]

The best reading is from the source. http://www.whoopieslings.com

Im pretty sure Warbonnet dosent supply them. There are a few hammock supply places that have them. Or you can make your own if you can get your hands on the cordage. (amsteel )

[ULWalkingPhil]

Thanks hitchhiking, those woopieslings, it amazes me how something so light and thin can support a persons weight. Obviously they must, so many use them.

[HitchHiking]

yeah the first time I tried them I was very careful just as its hard to fathom how it could support weight. The "constrictor bury" I hear is plenty strong at 8 inches in lenght. ( I hope )

[ULWalkingPhil]

yeah the first time I tried them I was very careful just as its hard to fathom how it could support weight. The "constrictor bury" I hear is plenty strong at 8 inches in lenght. ( I hope )

Lol, be sure to let me know if you end up flat on the ground, so I can scrap that of my, to buy list.

[HitchHiking]

yeah the first time I tried them I was very careful just as its hard to fathom how it could support weight. The "constrictor bury" I hear is plenty strong at 8 inches in lenght. ( I hope )

Lol, be sure to let me know if you end up flat on the ground, so I can scrap that of my, to buy list.

Yeah as with all my load-bearing kit I keep a close eye on it With a bit of TLC it will then take good care of you as well !

[Son of a Beach]

Thanks Evan. That's a great demonstration of a bushwalking hammock set up for those of us who are unfamiliar with it (ie, me!).

[ULWalkingPhil]

Hi Evan, I'm purchasing A Warbonnet Hammock, possibly as early as next week. Contemplating between a 1.1 Dbl or 1.7 Dbl. I notice you have the 1.1 Dbl, Do you find the lighter material stretches with time the more you use it? I prefer the lighter weight 1.1 Dbl, but if I get more life out of a 1.7, I might consider it. I am 175cm and 184 pounds.

[HitchHiking]

Thanks Evan. That's a great demonstration of a bushwalking hammock set up for those of us who are unfamiliar with it (ie, me!).

Yeah they are well worth a try at some point.

Hi Evan, I'm purchasing A Warbonnet Hammock, possibly as early as next week. Contemplating between a 1.1 Dbl or 1.7 Dbl. I notice you have the 1.1 Dbl, Do you find the lighter material stretches with time the more you use it? I prefer the lighter weight 1.1 Dbl, but if I get more life out of a 1.7, I might consider it. I am 175cm and 184 pounds.

I havent notice any stretching that I would be worried about and its coming up on 3 years I think with this hammock. I have no idea about the number of nights I in it now but it would be a number that I'm very happy with, especial as I sleep on the ground for many trips too.

You wont be angry with with of those two hammocks.

[ULWalkingPhil]

Trying to get my pack weight down, so If I can get away with the 1.1 Dbl, that would be great, My only concern if the material it's made off stretches with time and it's not so comfortable in a few years time, but this don't appear to be the case. The 1.1dbl is a fair bit lighter that the 1.7dbl.

Evan, after all that hiking I done in Sydney and back home here, since I seen you, I've realised I need to get my pack weight down, Not because I couldn't carry the weight, but because my left hip had started to play up when I carried 20Kg on my back. Otherwise, I didn't have to much drama carrying the weight. But I think my age is starting to catch up with me, so I need to get pack weight down. I've recently purchased a Aarn Pack, which should help a lot. I need to get at least 5Kg of my pack weight.

[ninjapuppet]

If 20kg is already causing you pain, why don't you take the plunge and go ultralight Phil? Aim for a baseweight of 3kg. It gets very addictive and allows you to push barriers you never could have imagined. I did 60km on Saturday with over 3000m climb with a 5kg day pack mostly carrying water. For comparison, my summer ultralite kit is 1.7kg.

To know that you can get somewhere 100km away in 2 days is very psychologically empowering.

[ULWalkingPhil]

If 20kg is already causing you pain, why don't you take the plunge and go ultralight Phil? Aim for a baseweight of 3kg. It gets very addictive and allows you to push barriers you never could have imagined. I did 60km on Saturday with over 3000m climb with a 5kg day pack mostly carrying water. For comparison, my summer ultralite kit is 1.7kg.

To know that you can get somewhere 100km away in 2 days is very psychologically empowering.

Wow, 60 in one day. That's a almighty effort. Well done. Most I've walked in a day is just over 30. I often go on day walks with 5 to 6 kg on my back with no problems. Climbed up Mt Walsh last week with 6kg and had no pain. Changing my pack and using hammocks and carry less crap with me, should do just the trick. My hilleberg is great, but a bit to heavy on my own. Will make a perfect tent to share with and for vehicle base camping.
In the future I will take my Hilleberg if I can share with someone else, it will be hammock camping for me from now on. Still saving up for the hammock. Hopefully next week I'll have the rest of the funds for a hammock and tarp. right now I'm waiting on a Aarn Pack I picked up on ebay last monday. I thought I would have had it in my hands by now, but the seller must be out holidaying. Have not heard back from him since the auction ended last monday. No reply to any of my emails and no Aarn pack so far.

In the mean time I'm doing lots of reading up on Hammock camping, and learning as much as I can before I own my own Warbonnet Blackbird. That's one cool name.

[HitchHiking]

Yeah the hammock can and definitely up your way Phillipsart reduce your pack weight. As awesome in many situations are you Hilleberg is that you showed me when down Sydney way it can be a bit heavy for a walk up your woods. Hope your aarn pack comes through ok!

As for packing less crap, well hammock camping can be a bit worse that way. The kit is usually lighter sure but there is for me a few more stuff sacs to deal with. For example a I have a small bag for my Tree Huggers as they can get sappy and pretty messy.



NinjaPuppet, That is some impressive distances! I hope you take a few seconds here and there to sign the logs books eh

[ULWalkingPhil]

I don't mind the extra stuff sacks etc, crap I'm referring to is things like torches, batteries, two gps units etc.
I sat down today and wrote a list out of all the gear I've taken with me in my recent hikes, and was surprised just how much gear I taken that I rarely used, such as a torch, headspot and battery lantern and than all the spare batteries, which I've never had to use while out on a hike. And than there's the trangia, great little cocker, reasonably light at 760 grams, but than I have to carry fuel, which I always end up carrying way more than I need, the most I've used so far is about half the fuel I've carried. I want to get away from the trangia stoves and look at something a lot lighter.

Can't wait to get my hammock, the weight that's going to save me will be huge, because I will not have to carry my Exped Downmat with me anymore at 1.2 kg.

I've made my decision to purchase the blackbird 1.1 Dbl with a camo superfly, for now I will use a light foam as a insulator to sleep on, and later on, I'll talk to you about one of those UQ, if you could make one for me.

[ninjapuppet]

Evan, your underquilts arent on your website but are you willing to make one to sell?
do you have a photo of your whole setup in its stuff sacks? with a nalgene for comparison? For me, the packed size is more important than its weight.

With that hammock forum, the amount of information on hammocks alone is just dazzling and makes you dizzy with the amount of loyal followers with each of the 20 brands!

Those GT nano-7 caught my eye as being the lightest around, but look mighty uncomfortable from photos. I really wonder if they're worth it.

[ULWalkingPhil]

I did see some posts on that forum, with images shown of the Warbonnet hammocks and fly next to a one litre nalgene bottle. Look to pack up into a very small stuff sack, There's certainly a lot of info there on hammocks in that forum.

Looking at saving weight but I certainly don't want to loose any comfort, from what I have read, some have hang there hammocks in door in there own house because of the better sleep there getting in a hammock.

[Marwood]

I've made my decision to purchase the blackbird 1.1 Dbl with a camo superfly, for now I will use a light foam as a insulator to sleep on, and later on, I'll talk to you about one of those UQ, if you could make one for me.

Good choice of hammock.

You may find the Superfly overkill for QLD, so you may want to think about a smaller, lighter tarp down the track. In my case, lack of "wife approval" lies between me and my cuben fiber dream tarp.

[Tony]

I have been reading this thread with interest, I looked at trying a hammock some years ago, but then looked at where I would use it, most of my bushwalking is in the Snowy's and most of my camp sites do not have suitable trees, the places where I go that do have suitable trees, the trees have a habit of dropping limbs and camping near trees can be very dangerous, campers do occasionally die in tents from falling branches. I only setup camp amongst trees if there is no other choice but that is rare.

For comparison, my summer ultralite kit is 1.7kg.

Hi ninjapuppet,

Can you publish your ultralite gear list please, I am wondering why your kit is so heavy. I have got mine down to 1650g.

Tony

[HitchHiking]

I've made my decision to purchase the blackbird 1.1 Dbl with a camo superfly, for now I will use a light foam as a insulator to sleep on, and later on, I'll talk to you about one of those UQ, if you could make one for me.

Yeah great set up. Brandon from warbonnet has worked hard and done very well with it all.

Evan, your underquilts arent on your website but are you willing to make one to sell?
do you have a photo of your whole setup in its stuff sacks? with a nalgene for comparison? For me, the packed size is more important than its weight.

.

Yeah I dont offer the underquilts as importing down in commercial quantities is far out of my reach for now. Ill drop you a PM

I have been reading this thread with interest, I looked at trying a hammock some years ago, but then looked at where I would use it, most of my bushwalking is in the Snowy's and most of my camp sites do not have suitable trees, the places where I go that do have suitable trees, the trees have a habit of dropping limbs and camping near trees can be very dangerous, campers do occasionally die in tents from falling branches. I only setup camp amongst trees if there is no other choice but that is rare.

Yeah the widowmaker is the classic problem. There have been a number of times where we have had to travel a little further to find 'Safe' trees. Its always the "what if". My Tree Huggers also cannot go around most mature gums. Im pushed to find smaller trees which are generally safer.

Here is the video of the making of my underquilt. The main thing about it is that I chose not to use conventional baffles. I used what is called Karo Step baffles. It allows the down to "migrate". It wont with out a bit of effort so therefor I can push more down to under my hip or shoulders etc. Its a little more comfort control.