Gaiters advice

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Re: Gaiters advice

Postby Genesis » Sat 05 Mar, 2011 9:05 am

Finally a pair that fits....

I got a pair of OR Crocodile M's in the XXL, these fit perfect around my leg the lower boot cover is a little loose but after adjusting the instep strap they seem to stay in place.

Some initial observations with this pair compared to the STS Quagmire, The Quagmires Canvas seem to be of much sturdier construction. I suppose I am comparing Gortex with
canvas but still... I wish STS made an XXL in the canvas Quagmires I am sure these would be in my kit instead of the OR's.

Another thing with the OR's that seems like a questionable design is the lace hook, it does not really protrude far at all not like the STS, it is sort of hidden in the Velcro overlap seal.
I suppose I will soon see how these hold up. If I thy fall apart in a non reasonable time frame I will probably be visiting my local sail maker to get some Genesis Customs!

I might trademark that name it has quite a ring!

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Re: Gaiters advice

Postby ninjapuppet » Sat 05 Mar, 2011 2:12 pm

Ive got a pair of STS canvas Quagmire and a pair of the OR Expedition Crocs and to compare the 2, the OR would seem more durable.

I got bitten by a snake and it didnt go through.
accidently stepped on it with sharp crampons and it didnt go though either.
The bottom part appears to be made of much thicker material than the rest of the gaiter.

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Re: Gaiters advice

Postby Genesis » Sun 06 Mar, 2011 10:41 pm

You are comparing the Expedition Crocs with the STS Quagmire, I have the Alpine Crocs as these are the only ones that came in the XXL that I needed for a fit. I have not seen the Expedition Crocs but they must be heavier that the alpine version, as the goretex upper on the Alpine gaiters is quite thin. I would have preferred thicker material but None of the XL sizes would have fit me. I will see how long these last as this will sway my decision for my next pair.
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Re: Gaiters advice

Postby Genesis » Sun 13 Mar, 2011 8:20 pm

Just back from WOJ, first run with new OR Crocs alpine. Went well even in some shin deep mud! I did some off track scrub bashing and did me well.
The small tab that holds the end of the instep strap is a bit frayed though, this could be better material. I will give it a coating of glue or something
to toughen it up. The stitching is holding up though. I would have liked to stick with canvas but thats life. I do want to see these mythical STS Tassie
gaiters.

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Re: Gaiters advice

Postby roysta » Mon 21 Mar, 2011 9:30 am

I used OR Crocodiles in the Arthurs a few weeks ago in awful conditions, they stood up well.
Whether they would continue to do so under sustained Tassie conditions I'm not sure.
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Re: Gaiters advice

Postby north-north-west » Wed 23 Mar, 2011 10:59 pm

stepbystep wrote:...my quagmires have lost most of the stitching on the front, buckles are bent, pushstuds are buggered and straps are snapped....

Sound like mine - which were virtually brand new before I went to Tassie.
I've had a pair of S2S Quagmires last three years of walking up here - mostly off track - without any issues but a bit of loose stitching on the scuffpads, but five weeks in Tassie and the straps are almost worn through and the stitching on the velcro's coming undone all down the front.
I have a theory about gaiters and Tasmania. I think it's the mud. All that tannin makes the mud and water far more acidic than normal mainland stuff, and that rots the stitching. Or maybe more alkaline. More something that's not good for thread, anyway.
Plus the scrub. Ohhhhh, that scrub.
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Re: Gaiters advice

Postby Son of a Beach » Thu 24 Mar, 2011 7:43 am

Yeah, that's a good theory. My old Geology teacher (the legendary 'Tiny') reckoned that when they used to wear boots with nailed on soles, the acidic water in the button grass plains would dissolve the nails quickly enough so that they'd come loose after a while, and the soles of the boots would fall off.
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Re: Gaiters advice

Postby stepbystep » Thu 24 Mar, 2011 10:02 am

north-north-west wrote:I have a theory about gaiters and Tasmania. I think it's the mud. All that tannin makes the mud and water far more acidic than normal mainland stuff, and that rots the stitching. Or maybe more alkaline. More something that's not good for thread, anyway.
Plus the scrub. Ohhhhh, that scrub.


Have had the same theory - the Arthur plains have put them out of their misery, can't justify more than one pair a year though :twisted: I think it's the mud that weakens it, then the scrub and rock finishes it off!
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