Franco wrote:If there was a price war it would eliminate most cottage manufacturers.
Only big brands that can place large orders with a Chinese manufacturer and sell at close to cost could do that.
Nuts wrote:'Instagram'! now there's a great model name.
wildwanderer wrote:I still dont get it..
though the satirical part of me thinks it might be a reference to HMGs love of the artistic filter with their marketing shots..
But surely everyone else is not as cynical as me..
Nuts wrote:
I'll save you from thoughts more in the realm of gratification and subliminal marketing.
Nuts wrote:Sorry, ok, no, you are welcome to take the first view. Really. It's not a judgement on your enthusiasm. I don't see the point of marketing like a sportscar release, i didn't think much of TT doing the same (at the risk of damaging the beautiful thing I have going with Franco). What is the point of such marketing??
I gave a different perspective to what are apparent facts for the new OP shelter to stony silence. It doesn't take anything like expertise, just facts there to see (and I was out on some of them looking back but nobody will ever know..) (and yes it's the UL pages, and yes iv'e defended that and yes have nothing against this material etc)
Nuts wrote:At the risk of raising your temps, I covered a swath of attributes for DCF in that thread, which may hint at some basic understanding. There's no need to go back over anything (unless you wish). What else was there? not needing a quick cinch before bed? Lest these topics just become an extension of marketing by the marketed, useless to anyone without DCF pockets and a dream. Please don't fall back to pointing out a group of super-feats by well known champs, they invariably could have done similar with a poly tarp.
Lamont wrote:I'm on it Batman-
it looks like (from the top/above picture) a Plexamid type set up?
'Hatty' a la Plexamid (dare it be a wee cross bar/tube/rods) type set up?
I'm feeling a LHG sort of inner (tubey) working but more simple -or wee CF rod/s.
Sticks angled inwards? It is a two stick set-up isn't it?
Interesting they say the DCF weight is slightly more than the 'heaviest' one the zpacks gang offer.
Zapruda wrote: Thicker DCF is good if it actually prolongs the life of the shelter. .
Nuts wrote:Zapruda wrote: Thicker DCF is good if it actually prolongs the life of the shelter. .
Well yes, this is correct, it could, to a degree. DCF commonly fails in the folds/ accumulation of creases, eventually leaking through the Mylar layer. The lifespan would be extended by increasing the weight of the PET layers rather then the weight of UHMWPE, unless something caused a catastrophic rip. Assuming the performance of Zpacks was a benchmark and had a limited life-span they could then claim a longer life potential (as an assumption, not yet a fact).
(ps. not a post about you nor an attempt to devalue your opinion. Facts for the discerning shopper)
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