Tarkine

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A little bit of what we got up to at Easter. Funny how Harriss states unequivocally there is no wilderness in the Tarkine. Intellectual lightweight!

From 8:20 in....

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24 ... alia-wide/

[Nuts]

'talking point'- mining the tarkine for taxpayer rebates:

http://www.themercury.com.au/news/opini ... 7360604506

[photohiker]

In the past three years Tasmania has lost 3000 mining jobs — more than half the industry — as the resources boom has collapsed. And not one of those job losses is due to conservation.

And so why are Shree and Venture still hanging around?

Two words — tax rebates.

Unlike other businesses that must claim research and development costs as tax deductions, mining exploration firms can claim their rebates as cash — even if they have never paid a cent in tax. Under these schemes, Shree Minerals has collected $2.27 million since 2011 (Shree Minerals annual reports 2009-2014 and half-year financial report December, 2014). That’s your money, given to pay the regular business expenses of a private mining company that has never paid tax, and never paid royalties.

But Shree are juniors in this taxpayer-funded game.

Since 2009, Venture Minerals has received $5.8 million from the taxpayer despite having never paid a cent in tax or royalties (Venture Minerals annual reports 2009-2014 and half-year financial report December, 2014).

In the same period, chief executive Hamish Halliday collected $3.4 million in salary, including $1.3 million bonuses (Venture Minerals annual reports 2009-2014). It’s lucrative business.

And this is just two of the 27 exploration licence holders in the Tarkine alone.

In this time of budget cuts to childcare, pensions and Medicare, the Commonwealth Government is handing out billions of dollars to speculative mining exploration companies through research and development rebate schemes.

The business plan is simple. Grab yourself an exploration licence over a slab of wilderness. List on the stock exchange and raise funds from investors. Start cutting down trees, and drill some test holes.

Get your rebate forms in, bank the cash, and pay a fat salary to a chief executive.

Mining is optional, not required. It’s all legal.

Welcome to the real mining boom: Mining the taxpayer.

Scott Jordan is spokesman for the Tarkine National Coalition.

So, is anyone still supporting mining in the Tarkine, or tearing up the Aboriginal heritage in a 4WD?

[flyfisher]

As one who likes to venture into such places in a 4wd, and drive on the sanctioned (legal) tracks, I find the repeated remarks of this type quite tiresome.

Flyfisher.

Last edited by flyfisher on Sun 31 May, 2015 6:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[corvus]

I 100% support Grange Resources in the "Tarkine" a fine example of jobs and income for Tas, sorry to say FF I know you are a responsible 4WD user however there is a mindset with some 4WD drivers that causes them to "vandalise wherever" as you pointed out about a Club that did that some time ago .

[photohiker]

tearing up the Aboriginal heritage in a 4WD?

As one who likes to venture into such places in a 4wd, and drive on the sanctioned (legal) tracks, I find the repeated remarks of this type quite tiresome.

Flyfisher.

The quote was mine, not Nuts's

Driving on sanctioned tracks is not the same as going off track and tearing up Aboriginal heritage, is it?

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The next celebration of the Tarkine's immense beauty and influence as a natural and cultural landscape is this. A combination of spoken word, song, music, sound effects and visuals 'Vocal Commotion' will literally give the Tarkine it's 'voice', pure and simple. Grab a ticket while you can...

https://festivalofvoices.com/events/tar ... -commotion

[Buddy]

I took a policy some time ago of not engaging with some of the members on this forum so I won't directly.

It's a shame so much of the bushwalking community(on this forum) are so jaded, and swallow the swill fed to them.

That's the way! Put yourself above everybody else and then show them where they are going wrong. It's a wonder you can see where you are going with your nose so high in the air. By the way, it's called the Arthur Pieman Conservation Area on all the maps, not the Tarkine.lol

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I took a policy some time ago of not engaging with some of the members on this forum so I won't directly.

It's a shame so much of the bushwalking community(on this forum) are so jaded, and swallow the swill fed to them.

That's the way! Put yourself above everybody else and then show them where they are going wrong. It's a wonder you can see where you are going with your nose so high in the air. By the way, it's called the Arthur Pieman Conservation Area on all the maps, not the Tarkine.lol

You weren't one of them buddy, you're quite literate and easy to understand Unfortunately not a lot of conservation goes on in the APCA, hence the need for actual protection with a Tarkine National Park of which the APCA will be part. Nice to see the name Tarkine being embraced by the Circular Head Council, Tourism Tas and tourism operators. They've got their eye on the prize!

[Nuts]

I took a policy some time ago of not engaging with some of the members on this forum so I won't directly.

It's a shame so much of the bushwalking community(on this forum) are so jaded, and swallow the swill fed to them.

That's the way! Put yourself above everybody else and then show them where they are going wrong. It's a wonder you can see where you are going with your nose so high in the air. By the way, it's called the Arthur Pieman Conservation Area on all the maps, not the Tarkine.lol

There'll be no hugs for you then! Haha! But the maps, they are a changing. There's even signs saying so. I know it's there, in places, but some signs pointing out 'pristine' would be a nice touch (for those with feet on ground), we wouldn't want to go wasting such a term, willy knilly.

Anyhow, progress is at hand, you simply don't count Buddy

[Nuts]

http://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasma ... 7410856258

[photohiker]

And:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-24/n ... ic/6569884

An upgraded 90-kilometre tourist road has been officially opened in the Tarkine region of north-west Tasmania.

The $23-million project included sealing roads from Arthur River to Tayateah Bridge.

Three bridges were replaced and tourist facilities were upgraded.

The Tasmanian Government expects the number of tourists who visit the area annually will more than double to about 75,000 by 2025.

[Nuts]

WHA Status doesn't deserve the Tarkine Drive.

It is a shame they couldn't manage an upgrade to facilities and maintenance at Tayatea Bridge

[gayet]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-26/tarkine-mine-appeal-dismissed-by-federal-court/6575690

Perhaps it will remain in care and maintenance for some time to come....

[Nuts]

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/318 ... portunity/

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Tarkine in Motion - Vocal Commotion at the Peacock Theatre Wednesday night was a sold out show, 15 original, Tarkine inspired pieces put together since the Easter immersion saw a standing ovation, tears, laughter, joy and hope. A truly inspirational night, from a truly inspirational place!

Some lyric from Ruth Langford, performed by the Palewa mob:

Where are my old lores
And those who can teach them
Where do I go for guidance
And protection
Where do I go to find
My religion

I want to know what's My religion
I want to know what's beyond the sky
I want to know a deep peace
To know who I am inside

I've sat by Shinto trees
and walked through ancient monasteries
I've met sages
Even read philosophy
But still the answers escape me

I want to know my religion
I want to know what's beyond the sky
I want to find a deep peace
To know who I am inside.

I am floating in a river
And the wind is talking to the trees
The clouds share their story
And the lore is revealed to me

You can make BEAUTY your religion
You can embrace the colours in the sky
And you can find a deep peace when you find
your BEAUTY inside

YES I have found my religion
I've embraced the colours in the sky
And yes
I found a deep deep peace
Now I've found my Beauty inside.

[Hallu]

THE Tarkine's extensive mining heritage had "terrific tourism potential", historian Nic Haygarth told a mining conference yesterday.

lol is this guy even serious ? Who the hell is gonna visit the Tarkine for a few holes and desolated landscapes for "mining tourism" ?

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THE Tarkine's extensive mining heritage had "terrific tourism potential", historian Nic Haygarth told a mining conference yesterday.

lol is this guy even serious ? Who the hell is gonna visit the Tarkine for a few holes and desolated landscapes for "mining tourism" ?

Nic is a very smart man who understands looking to the future requires making a respective nod to the past. Lots of folk will visit the region for this, not nearly as many as will come for the natural values, but to assume someone who is interested in old mining doesn't appreciate old trees also is ignorant. That's how we connect different folks from different strokes.

[Hallu]

Well I can understand that some miners can also be environmentalists. It's the same thing with hunters. But mining tourism will only attract local tourism. People who by definition will not bring much revenue to the tourism industry : they stay for a day or two, and probably live nearby and won't even pay for a hotel, or will just camp somewhere. However the Tarkine natural treasures have the potential to attract foreign tourists, who will stay longer and contribute much more to the local economy.

[north-north-west]

Oh dear.

I knew a number of people when I was living in Victoria who were fascinated by this sort of history. Well-off 4wders who would think nothing of spending a week at a time exploring old mining zones. Either camping or using the closest accommodation, they'd trawl through areas looking for relics (not to collect, just to see), pits and shafts, tailing heaps and the like.
There are also a lot of walkers who find that evidence of different aspects of history add to their enjoyment of a walk. You look at things like the Monarch Mine loop in the Gammons & various walks in Victoria's Goldfields - these sites can attract a surprising number of people. It's not a major attraction for me, but still something that I find interesting.

This stuff is out there; if it can add to the attraction of the area, we need to use it.

[vicrev]

Oh dear.

I knew a number of people when I was living in Victoria who were fascinated by this sort of history. Well-off 4wders who would think nothing of spending a week at a time exploring old mining zones. Either camping or using the closest accommodation, they'd trawl through areas looking for relics (not to collect, just to see), pits and shafts, tailing heaps and the like.
There are also a lot of walkers who find that evidence of different aspects of history add to their enjoyment of a walk. You look at things like the Monarch Mine loop in the Gammons & various walks in Victoria's Goldfields - these sites can attract a surprising number of people. It's not a major attraction for me, but still something that I find interesting.

This stuff is out there; if it can add to the attraction of the area, we need to use it.

Sure do agree with this ..People do have different interests & reasons for walking,its not just about admiring the pristine scenery,they maybe go bananas over old pit heads,old logging bits & pieces,so what ?........whatever your thing is....enjoy !!!!......

[photohiker]

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-1 ... hs/6698366

The court hearing on whether the Tasmanian Government should be allowed to open up the Arthur-Pieman Conservation area to four-wheel-driving has been pushed back to October.

[geoskid]

All I can get out of that report is that the court has something to consider.

I always thought that there was middle ground to be found between closing all tracks VS opening ( or continuing to have open all) all tracks.

There is great potential in that area to cater to a wide range of wants. It all comes down to what personal wants do we collectively want to allow, and what wants we want to disallow, all assuming what future generations might want.

I sometimes wonder whether we think future unborn generations are going to be essentially any different to us regarding resource use. Or wether (like us ) they will just be born into current circumstances and deal with it.
In other words, we like to think we are conserving for others, but are we really? Is it just pushback against us knowing we can do nothing about our natures and appealing to future generations in a vain hope of curtailing wants.
Anyone with a teenager could at least get a glimpse of my concern about the next (or any future generations) generations ability to curb wants.

[geoskid]

Just want to add - I think attempting to curtail wants is a good thing, just that it will be ongoing for humans forever. (well - as long as humans are around.) No reason not to keep trying to fit square pegs in round holes though - failure is not an option.

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A film on the 'Tarkine in Motion' project will premiere in Hobart on the 19/9. Tickets on sale now

http://www.effa.org.au/tarkine-in-motion/

An exhibition of mixed works will open in Burnie as part of 'Burnie Shines' on 17/9 and I anticipate there will be a Burnie screening of the film in late October.

Heaps of wonderful Tarkine imagery and lots of Tarkine imagination....

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Some may be interested in this event. I'll be up there
http://www.bobbrown.org.au/bioblitz

[north-north-west]

A film on the 'Tarkine in Motion' project will premiere in Hobart on the 19/9. Tickets on sale now

http://www.effa.org.au/tarkine-in-motion/

An exhibition of mixed works will open in Burnie as part of 'Burnie Shines' on 17/9 and I anticipate there will be a Burnie screening of the film in late October.

Heaps of wonderful Tarkine imagery and lots of Tarkine imagination....

Sold out already. Can I get a preview?

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Hey nnw - there will be an encore screening at the state next month and then heaps more across the country. I'll get you a closed caption DVD soon

[north-north-west]

I'll get you a closed caption DVD soon

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[Nuts]

Closing coastal tracks past significant cultural sites is a good idea?:

http://tasmaniantimes.com/index.php?/ar ... anent-pro/

or.. Closing coastal tracks is a bad idea?

https://soundcloud.com/936-abc-hobart/o ... orporation