Walls of Jerusalem - evacuation

[paulw93]

Hi all,

I am hoping someone can help.
I am currently studying outdoor recreation in western Australia, and as part of the degree a group of us are having to plan out own expedition.

We are currently looking at walking around the walls of jerusalem, however in order to get approval to conduct the expedition we are in need of some important information, without it we can not do it.

The main thing that I can not find after hours of google searches, is self evacuation points, in order to save the university money and not have to call a helicopter,

Is there any areas that is a must see for a group of future outdoors leaders.

Thanks again. hopefully someone can help soon, as we want to start booking stuff in the next week.


Paul

[Scottyk]

The track in the best evac route out, normally your going to be about 4-6 hours from the car. Also of note is that from the top of the major peaks with the walls area you will have telstra mobile coverage. There are other routes out but they are long and some aren't very well marked. An example would be to go down to Lake Meston and out via Lake Myrlte and Lake Bill. This would add an extra day just to get out.
Get a copy of John Chapmans book on the area and this will help you alot. See this link http://www.chartandmapshop.com.au/27330 ... 1920995010
As for resue costs I think there is no charge for a rescue from the tasmanian resue trust.
Hope this helps

[corvus]

Hi all,

I am hoping someone can help.
I am currently studying outdoor recreation in western Australia, and as part of the degree a group of us are having to plan out own expedition.

We are currently looking at walking around the walls of jerusalem, however in order to get approval to conduct the expedition we are in need of some important information, without it we can not do it.

The main thing that I can not find after hours of google searches, is self evacuation points, in order to save the university money and not have to call a helicopter,

Is there any areas that is a must see for a group of future outdoors leaders.

Thanks again. hopefully someone can help soon, as we want to start booking stuff in the next week.


Paul

Paul,
The self evacuation points are required for what sort of a scenario as there are several from that area ? and if you have the time and resources all of the Walls are a must see
corvus

[Strider]

Rescue in Tasmania is free and would not cost the university anything for evacuation anyway.

[paulw93]

Thanks..
Does someone have a link for the tasmania resume trust stuff..
And for what we will need to be evacuated for, who know it is just we need to know how to get out of the area before we go..

We are currently looking at traveling from lake ada, via lake bill to wild dog creek and out, with a day to explore the central walls - mt jerusalem , the temple.

[photohiker]

Taking a PLB?

Trip sounds a bit rushed if you are coming from WA. I'd spend at least two days in the central walls area. When you get there you will probably want to spend a week!

[Strider]

I got the impression it was a theoretical exercise to demonstrate ability in planning?

[paulw93]

The trip is not until September/October but we need to get some paper work into the uni In the next week so we can book flights and stuff before it gets to expensive.
We will be taking a plb and satellite phone.

[GPSGuided]

Can someone define "self evacuation" here? I don't understand what it meant. "Self evacuation" as in quick exit points along the planned route? Otherwise I can't see how one can self-evacuates in the wilderness without getting back to one's car or a pickup point, unless one has access to a helicopter or other transports at one's disposal.

[paulw93]

Hi,

In terms of self evacuation, I am meaning ways out of the area without having to call in for assistance, we would only call for assistance if it was a major emergency and needed medical assistance as soon as possible

[Overlandman]

Does someone have a link for the tasmania resume trust stuff..

Not sure if you want a link to the Tasmanian Air Rescue Trust, if you do it is;

http://www.tasmanianairrescuetrust.org/

Regards Overlandman

[corvus]

Thanks..
Does someone have a link for the tasmania resume trust stuff..
And for what we will need to be evacuated for, who know it is just we need to know how to get out of the area before we go..

We are currently looking at traveling from lake ada, via lake bill to wild dog creek and out, with a day to explore the central walls - mt jerusalem , the temple.

G'day paulw93,
Lake Bill is a long way from Ada and Wild Dog Creek so your proposed rout is not making any sense, your journey from Ada will take you past Fanny (good camping there)then up the valley to Dixons Kingdom into the central walls down to Wild Dog Creek from there your choice is to head via Solomons Jewels to Trappers Hut and out, or down past Adelaide to Meston and out the Myrtle Lake track via Lake Bill.
Enjoy you trip.
corvus

[paulw93]

Thanks..
Does someone have a link for the tasmania resume trust stuff..
And for what we will need to be evacuated for, who know it is just we need to know how to get out of the area before we go..

We are currently looking at traveling from lake ada, via lake bill to wild dog creek and out, with a day to explore the central walls - mt jerusalem , the temple.

G'day paulw93,
Lake Bill is a long way from Ada and Wild Dog Creek so your proposed rout is not making any sense, your journey from Ada will take you past Fanny (good camping there)then up the valley to Dixons Kingdom into the central walls down to Wild Dog Creek from there your choice is to head via Solomons Jewels to Trappers Hut and out, or down past Adelaide to Meston and out the Myrtle Lake track via Lake Bill.
Enjoy you trip.
corvus

Hi sorry

I was meant to say lake ball,

Day 1: lake ada to Hut No. 5
Day 2: Hut no 5 to dixon hut via lake ball
Day 3: explore the walls
Day 4: Dixon hut to WIld dog creek
Day 5 Wild dog creek out via trappers hut

[GPSGuided]

In terms of self evacuation, I am meaning ways out of the area without having to call in for assistance, we would only call for assistance if it was a major emergency and needed medical assistance as soon as possible

If such is the case, then you are really talking about getting back to where your car is parked, right? All other points will require a call to someone for pickup, right?

[corvus]

Thanks..
Does someone have a link for the tasmania resume trust stuff..
And for what we will need to be evacuated for, who know it is just we need to know how to get out of the area before we go..

We are currently looking at traveling from lake ada, via lake bill to wild dog creek and out, with a day to explore the central walls - mt jerusalem , the temple.

G'day paulw93,
Lake Bill is a long way from Ada and Wild Dog Creek so your proposed route is not making any sense, your journey from Ada will take you past Fanny (good camping there)then up the valley to Dixons Kingdom into the central walls down to Wild Dog Creek from there your choice is to head via Solomons Jewels to Trappers Hut and out, or down past Adelaide to Meston and out the Myrtle Lake track via Lake Bill.
Enjoy you trip.
corvus

Hi sorry

I was meant to say lake ball,

Day 1: lake ada to Hut No. 5
Day 2: Hut no 5 to dixon hut via lake ball
Day 3: explore the walls
Day 4: Dixon hut to WIld dog creek
Day 5 Wild dog creek out via trappers hut

paulw93,
The hut no 5 at Antimony lake is a bit of a diversion and navigation guides are not that good , if doing what you intend to I would camp at Fanny day one then head to Dixons for night two,
Lake Ball is a long way from your intended route so perhaps you should have a good look at your maps just saying and sorry self evacuation is what I would do unless hemmed in with fire or flood ,good luck and please do more research and enjoy your trip.
corvus

Last edited by corvus on Wed 07 May, 2014 7:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[north-north-west]

There's no reason you can't go via Hut 5, but it seems bit odd, especially if you mean to follow the track to Antimony (which is where the hut is).
It's not that hard to get back up to Fanny from Antimony - follow the track and then Powana Creek once the track veers off - but it's not something I would advise for people unaccustomed to Tasmanian scrub. Not that it's particularly thick there, but it still might be a bit of a shock. From Fanny you either climb up onto the Great Pine Tier and follow it, or stick with the lakeside valley, or cut over the Tier and follow Bernes. Again, not particularly rugged country by Tasmanian standards, but not for those unversed with off-track walking.
Day 4 is ultra-short compared to the rest. It's only an hour from Dixon's to the Wild Dog Camp in decent conditions. OK, you can spend the rest of the day exploring down the creek and up to Tiger & George Howes Lakes, but it still seems a rather unbalanced itinerary.

[corvus]

There's no reason you can't go via Hut 5, but it seems bit odd, especially if you mean to follow the track to Antimony (which is where the hut is).
It's not that hard to get back up to Fanny from Antimony - follow the track and then Powana Creek once the track veers off - but it's not something I would advise for people unaccustomed to Tasmanian scrub. Not that it's particularly thick there, but it still might be a bit of a shock. From Fanny you either climb up onto the Great Pine Tier and follow it, or stick with the lakeside valley, or cut over the Tier and follow Bernes. Again, not particularly rugged country by Tasmanian standards, but not for those unversed with off-track walking.
Day 4 is ultra-short compared to the rest. It's only an hour from Dixon's to the Wild Dog Camp in decent conditions. OK, you can spend the rest of the day exploring down the creek and up to Tiger & George Howes Lakes, but it still seems a rather unbalanced itinerary.

Sorry ,
No 5 is at Antimony, forgot that and Silver both mean the same
corvus

[corvus]

I suspect you itinerary is curbed somewhat by Transport options and your availability ,how long do you have ?
corvus.

[paulw93]

Yes it very much centered around transport, and time... We only have five days, to conduct our expedition, but understand what you are saying, we could go to lake fanny instead of lake ball. We are handing in the paperwork required tomorrow so we will know if we are able to go or not and can start really working out what we are going to do

[corvus]

Yes it very much centered around transport, and time... We only have five days, to conduct our expedition, but understand what you are saying, we could go to lake fanny instead of lake ball. We are handing in the paperwork required tomorrow so we will know if we are able to go or not and can start really working out what we are going to do

With your time constraints I personally would, 1 Fanny 2x Dixons to allow exploration and 1 at Wild Dog Creek then choose whether you follow the tack or head down Wild dog to pick up the track via George Howes Lake to Trappers and out with the normal nice walk
corvus