Would you tell anyone?

[MickyB]

I saw this article in the Herald Sun and it got me wondering. If you saw a Tasmanian Tiger would you tell anyone? Would you report it? Would you tell your family and friends? If you could prove 100% that they still exist would that change your thoughts?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/east ... 6700541950

I'm not sure if this topic has been covered in the past and if it has I appologise.

[stepbystep]

Shhhhhhhh......

http://doublesee.com.au/2013/06/03/conf ... ainlander/

Belongs in off track I reckon

[Strider]

Had this discussion with some mates just yesterday - both of whom did not believe there to be any chance that they still exist. Myself, I am undecided on the matter. I would love to see one, but the evidence is definitely against the possibility - I would tell someone but only those with an interest to regenerate the species.

[MickyB]

Belongs in off track I reckon

Oops. Thought I had it in that. And the double post. I'm going well.

[geoskid]

Shhhhhhhh......

http://doublesee.com.au/2013/06/03/conf ... ainlander/

Belongs in off track I reckon

Too Late , I heard.

[geoskid]

Hey Micky,

In the dream I had, where I saw one, I told someone - My wife - she was worried and recommended I see someone, then I woke up.

Btw - You're so fine

But seriously - we're talking fiction, right? Please?
Click on the education tab of the link provided - I'm worried.

[geoskid]

Shhhhhhhh......

http://doublesee.com.au/2013/06/03/conf ... ainlander/

Belongs in off track I reckon

I agree with Shhhhhhhh SBS
Particularly after reading this:

"My producer and I have decided not to go through official channels to fund the film."
from here -
http://doublesee.com.au/tigerland-thyla ... cumentary/

The plot thickens - better not spoil it for the kids, eh?

[TerraMer]

I met a mad scientist in the bush many years ago. An old dying man who had dedicated all his retired years to his passion. He was a tiger tracker. Showed me photo evidence of tracks and scats, played sound recordings, photo and video evidence of 3 different tassie tigers. He told me where they were and that only a few other people knew, including a couple of popular published environmentalists. I assumed he was pulling my leg so I went bushwalking and camping there to see/hear for myself. I saw the tracks and scats but didn't hear or see them. Aspergers gives me a distinct sensory advantage over most humans because I don't filter, I process about 10 times more sensory input than non autistics. While I was there I could smell an animal I had never smelt before, it smelt like no native or feral i had ever encountered and years later I still believe I smelt a tassie tiger because I have never smelt anything like it since.
With the knowledge that a few of the right people are aware of this location and have copies of this old man's evidence I am leaving it at that. I have never and will never tell anyone where this happened.

[stepbystep]

The plot thickens - better not spoil it for the kids, eh?

Children aren't afraid of the truth, it's adults that live in the world of secrets and lies.

[Strider]

TerraMer would you at the very least be willing to say which state this occurred in? Very interesting.

[Hallu]

Many believe they were still here until late 80's/early 90's but that the remaining ones are now gone. Without enough breeding pairs, that's probably a fair assumption. Humans were killing them easily at the beginning of the 20th century, there's no reason they turned to ghosts all of a sudden. The most likely scenario is that a couple of them survived, but numbers declined progressively. But anyway, if I found one yes I would tell PWS because a huge program would then be put into place to save the species. Keeping it to yourself would be a bad thing for the species, we need fresh DNA samples in case we may recreate it some day, or we need to monitor them in case we could find more and make them thrive. I truly believe that not telling anyone is the worst thing you could do for the survival of the species if it still exists.

[TerraMer]

TerraMer would you at the very least be willing to say which state this occurred in? Very interesting.

On the mainland only 9 years ago. If you know anything about the habits of the Tassie tiger you can narrow it down to just a few.
That old fella had found possible signs of them in another 3 states other than Tassie. Narrowing their possible range down to 5 states.

[TerraMer]

Keeping it to yourself would be a bad thing for the species, we need fresh DNA samples in case we may recreate it some day, or we need to monitor them in case we could find more and make them thrive. I truly believe that not telling anyone is the worst thing you could do for the survival of the species if it still exists.

i agree. If i happened across an endangered species or even an extinct one and had no prior knowledge of it being reported i definitely would, being very careful who i reported too. In the case of this tiger tracker's sightings and findings, the right person/department knows but, for their own reasons, have not made it public knowledge. i know of a few other incidents where significant findings have been found and reported, stuff that will rewrite history, but they are not being released to the public yet. Hopefully one day they will come to light.

( i haven't found any UFO's parked anywhere yet if i did i wouldn't tell, i have trouble enough already proving my sanity )

[GPSGuided]

Gosh, it's starting to sound like the abominable snow man. Seriously, suggestive tracks, scat and sounds are so wishy washy, may be fun as a hobby but hardly the stuff to get excited about until firm evidence.

[Hallu]

Agreed. It's too easy to say "I haven't told anyone but the proper authorities, who know but won't tell". Only on this forum, I think over the last year I've seen between 5 and 10 people mentioning they've heard/smelled/seen or mostly know someone who's trustworthy and absolutely sure they've seen a thylacine. Strangely enough, nobody wants to tell where, but they're all eager to share the pride that they've encountered one... But mostly it's also been 8 years since that picture of the allegedly back of a thylacine by a German tourist that anything has been brought forward.

[LandSailor]

I would definitely be telling specific people in the NPWS. It wouldnt surprise me at all if Tassie Tigers exists in small pockets of remote wilderness.
For me the discovery of the Wollemi Pine is a far more unlikely story than the tassie tiger being discovered again. An animal that was apparently always shy and secretive by nature anyway.

[Hallu]

I'm not sure. A tree doesn't move, so as long as you map out and entire area, you're gonna find it. Finding an animal that doesn't want to be found is a lot harder. I think the most effective way of finding secretive species is camera traps. It only costs money and a good eye to place them on the most likely areas the animal is gonna cross. It's been tried for the thylacine of course, but it needs to be done for a much longer period, on a much larger area. Maybe technology will help us in the future having energy efficient cameras that can last for months, with silent functioning, highly sensitive captors to work even more efficiently in the dark or even remote transfer of the photos so you don't have to retrieve the cameras to see the pictures.

[stepbystep]

According to my sources PWS have known for years about certain 'colonies'.....

[GPSGuided]

There's some dark conspiracy theories around...

[MickyB]

I would love to see one, but the evidence is definitely against the possibility - I would tell someone but only those with an interest to regenerate the species.

Strider - I totally agree with you on this. I think if they did exist there would be some type of proof (other than dodgy photos) such as a carcass, skelaton , scat etc. I think if someone could 100% prove they did exist they could go to the media and be fiancially be set up for life. The fact that this hasn't happened makes me think they are no longer out there. Didn't someone put up $1 million reward a few years ago for proof of that the tiger existed??

According to my sources PWS have known for years about certain 'colonies'.....

I have heard something along the same lines as this. I have also heard some people have been physically threatened if they went public with their stories. But as GPSGuided said there's some dark conspiracy theories around.

[Giddy_up]

What great intrigue. Gee I hope your right and they still exist.


"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards"

[noodle07]

My uncle had a sighting on his property near euroa( 30 min away) .Sent a plaster mold of the foot print into to someone in melbourne ( Will find out more specific details this weekend) , apparently she knew what she was talking about . And it was definitely the foot print of a thylacine .. This confirmed for him what he already believed because its not the first one seen near his property ..
Ill believe it when i see it myself

[Hallu]

Yeah foot prints could be easy to fake unfortunately. You need DNA to prove it. They have mapped the DNA from the thylacine about 8 years ago, so proving it's a real one with fresh scats, hair or even saliva would be doable. If you see a print, try to find some hair first.

[GPSGuided]

Footprint sightings have been tried with the snowman too. Good for publicity and help local tourism. LOL

[north-north-west]

According to my sources PWS have known for years about certain 'colonies'.....

Maybe there's a reason certain tracks are being left off maps . . .

[corvus]

According to my sources PWS have known for years about certain 'colonies'.....

Maybe there's a reason certain tracks are being left off maps . . .

Doubt it !!

[sambar358]

This is a bit like the black Panther myth...plenty of believers but no hard proof of their existence if you discount a few dodgy photos, indistinct prints and reports of kills on large herbivors which could have been done by wild dogs. I would have thought that if they existed then (like the panthers) one would have been shot when fox pelts were attracting a high price and there were 1000's of blokes out spotlighting for them all over the country night after night for 20 years....yet no one ever shot a panther or a Tassie tiger although plenty of "large black well-fed feral cats" were accounted for.

More recently many hunters are running trail cameras in the bush getting images of our wildlife....there would be probably 1000's of trail cameras out all the time these days...but still no one has captured an image of a panther or Tassie tiger and some of these trail cams would be set on carcasses for wild dog or eagle images and they'd be ideal set-ups to attract a large predator. I run about 12 trail cameras most of the year targetting deer images mainly but you get all sorts of other bush animals on them too including the major predators : wild dogs, feral cats & foxes plus hawks, eagles, owls, quolls, bandcoots, 'roos, wallabies, wombats, all manner of bush birds, even goannas and snakes....still waiting for a panther or Tassie tiger to show-up and I suspect I'll be waiting for a fair while. Always interesting to ponder their existence and there is certainly a lot of very remote country seldom trod still out there but I don't think either exist these days...but then again who can say for sure ???? Cheers

sambar358

[GPSGuided]

Always interesting to ponder their existence and there is certainly a lot of very remote country seldom trod still out there but I don't think either exist these days...but then again who can say for sure ???? Cheers

Wishful thinking keeps us alive and sane. This applies more than just on thylacine, a lot more than just physical objects.

[SteveJ]

According to my sources PWS have known for years about certain 'colonies'.....

Maybe there's a reason certain tracks are being left off maps . . .

Some practical advice rather than airy-fairy mysticism would be helpful.