Mid-sized pack - Mungo or WBA?

[rucksack]

You are indeed correct Ent.

From page 23 of OP's 2006 catalogue, with respect to the Mungo ...

"This simple pack was designed for school and club use, but has become so popular, we have made it part of our regular lineup."

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[ollster]

The WBA is described on the One Planet website as having 'reasonable scrub resistance'. That does not equate to off-track walking in my mind.

Well, to me that sounds like it should definitely be up for some punishment - it does use the word "reasonable". That doesn't infer "don't take the pack into the scrub" now does it?

(Removed the other bit cause it was likely to cause cries.)

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[Strider]

The WBA is described on the One Planet website as having 'reasonable scrub resistance'. That does not equate to off-track walking in my mind.

Well, to me that sounds like it should definitely be up for some punishment - it does use the word "reasonable". That doesn't infer "don't take the pack into the scrub" now does it?

I didn't see any arguement

"Reasonable" suggests on-track usage to me also.

[ollster]

I didn't see any arguement

"Reasonable" suggests on-track usage to me also.

I would think disagreeing with someone over semantics is an argument. IMO tracks generally don't have scrub unless it's more of a pad than a track. Off track has scrub, and so saying reasonable scrub resistance would lead one to think it was a "reasonable" option to take into scrub. ie: not like it was made out of wetted brown paper as MJDs seems to be.

[Mountain Rocket]

"Reasonable" suggests on-track usage to me also.

Off track has scrub, and so saying reasonable scrub resistance would lead one to think it was a "reasonable" option to take into scrub. That doesn't infer "don't take the pack into the scrub" now does it?

I agree to both of these comments. The issue clearly is how people define off-track walking. In my mind it merely means there is no notable track (lots of scrub). With this definition in mind I would say the WBA is suitable for off-track walking. However, if you consider off-track walking to mean it can handle anything thrown at it (ie: dolerite) I would not consider it suitable. And by not suitable I mean I would not recommend it.

I would also suggest the word 'reasonable' in relation to scrub resistance is ambiguous, and I think this needs to be considered when weighing up comments. When I previously said I do not consider the WBA suitable for off-track walking, I was speaking in relation to what I consider the more common definition of off-track walking, which involves (hardcore) abuse.

Oh and finally as Ent has already pointed out, the ability of the pack to perform also comes down to the way it is used. Things like the way you pack the pack has an impact, as does the way you scramble over rocks/pack haul.

You've been around what? 5 minutes, and you're picking arguments with people who've been on more walks that you're mum's cooked you hot dinners? Not a very smart move for a noob.

As it would happen it was my one year anniversary here two days ago, but I fail to see the relevance. Furthermore, I am not picking arguments with anyone. If entering into a discussion suddenly equates to picking arguments, clearly I picked the wrong forum to post on. I do not yet think that is the case, however you could prove me wrong.

[Snowzone]

taking into consideration the fact that I will get shouted down here I'm going to add my experience anyway.
I have a WBA as well as a Strezlecki. I recently took the WBA to Mt Anne (shelf camp) and off track from Lees Paddocks in an unsuccessful attempt to get through to Kiora (didn't make it through due to high water levels in the creek but thats another story) So ok its not days on end bashing through scrub but it did hold together. I do concede that it may not be the right pack for serious off track conditions however it is still a lighter weight, good size pack.
The Strezlecki has been bashed about for years and held together but it is a lot heavier.

[Son of a Beach]

Off topic, personal and moderation based comments removed. Please keep it all on topic and within rules, guys.

[north-north-west]

...I was speaking in relation to what I consider the more common definition of off-track walking, which involves (hardcore) abuse..

I'm all for a bit of hardcore abuse, but Nik keeps removing it.