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A walk in the snow - not quite to Meston

PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep, 2009 9:13 pm
by sthughes
Amid bushwalker weather alerts, news reports of highland road closures and a not particularly good weather forecast myself and 7 other forum members and friends embarked on a walk to Lake Meston Hut via the Jackson's Creek Track, or so we thought. It wasn't far and it wasn't particularly steep overall, but there was the odd bit of snow.
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We set off from the end of the Mersey Forest Road at 9.35am and headed up the surprisingly good track towards the top. Apart from a few trees across the track thing went well.
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Eventually we reached some proper snow and things got a bit more difficult. By the time we reached the top of the main rise the snow was well over knee deep and after crossing the creek and finding an open plain we decided it was time to "Yowie up".
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ImageFrom here on we made our way to the end of the plain and had no real clue of where the track was. After a bit of discussion and backtracking we headed off towards Lake Myrtle, attempting to sidle around a small hill to it's northwest at a higher, then lower, then middle level above the Lake. At some point we must have been on the track but most of the time it was just pick the least difficult route.
It had become fairly apparent to most of us by now that reaching Lake Meston was just a fantasy. Averaging 500m an hour wasn't going to get us there anytime soon. We instead went for plan B - a small camp site Corvus knew about on the west side of the creek that flows out of Lake Myrtle. We arrived here at 5.06pm, I think it would be fair to say we were all a little weary, or perhaps as Pomysi (the primary snow plough) put it "completely knackered". Meals weren't quite as lavish as our recent 'Christmas in July' at waterfall valley, personally I had shaved 8 to 9kg off my pack weight and ate 2 minute noodles instead of a 4 course baked meal. 6.30pm was bed time for me along with a few others, while some of the party had extra weight they needed to drink before going to bed. It had been a tough day 5.2km, 7hrs 30mins, 600m or so climbed all at 0.7km/h overall. The weather however had been generally good, just a bit of light rain but also plenty of blue sky.

Day 2 began early for me when I woke up at about 5am to my tent touching my face, hmm interesting. Turned out we had about 100mm of snow and my Microlight was sagging a bit, no problem just to bang it off.
ImageWhen I finally got up at 8am and poked my head out I was a bit shocked that it was still snowing very well. I emerged and hastily dressed in full wet weather gear once again and set about hot porridge for breakfast with my new spork. Everyone was packed up (Flyfisher slowest) and on the track by 9.30am. We had made the decision to get the hell out of the snow ASAP and were hence headed north towards Lake Bill to get down to the road the shortest way we could. ImageOnce again it was slow going and difficult to stay on the track. The swollen creek (I wonder why) also hampered things a bit, making what parts of the track could be followed into a creek/bog.
ImageEventually we crossed the swollen creek (wish I had a video), it was a tad precarious for the first 7 of us, Pomysi went last and I thought he was going for a dip (pack, snowshoes and all) but eventually managed to cross with nothing but a wet foot and wobbly knees. I was glad I had my 2 trekking poles at this point, Brett probably wished he hadn't snapped one of his the day before! Eventually we made it to Lake Bill and followed the track (mostly) around the edge, at times it was just easier to wade in the Lake than thrash it out in the soft snow (about 1m deep and squashing about 30 to 50cm underfoot), mud and trees.
ImageBlizzard plain was hard going, I took ploughing duties briefly and was a write off in no time.
After pausing briefly for lunch the rest of the plain passed fairly quickly and things became easier as we descended out of the thick snow. ImageEventually the Yowies came off (hoorah) and within an hour or so we emerged at the Mersey Forest Road at 3pm! Up to this point had been 1.1km/h, on the road I managed 6km/h average, still in full wet weather gear but with the constant light snow/rain having largely taken a break. I was very happy to see my car still in one piece and ready to go, I've never appreciated an engine quite as much. :P Overall day 2 was 9.9km, 1.5km/h, mostly downhill and 6hrs 43mins.

It was a fantastic experience, I'm not sure I'd deliberately go out looking for it again, but I'm looking forward to the next one. I can't wait to tackle the same route but include Meston Hut in the summer, and see the track we couldn't see this time. A big thanks to everyone who came, especially to Speculator, Geoskid and particularly Pomysi who shouldered almost all the snow ploughing on day 2 as well as most on day 1. I may well have been up there another night without them.

Re: A walk in the snow - not quite to Meston

PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep, 2009 9:29 pm
by north-north-west
I can't see any knees. Don't tell me the old man of the mountains is wearing something over his shorts?

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep, 2009 9:55 pm
by abowen
Great walk in the snow guys! Did a walk into Olive Lagoon a couple of weekends back and the same thing happened to us. Though there was no snow initially, by mid afternoon of the walk in the rain had turned to a light snow flurry. By the time we camped at the bottom of Olive, snow was dropping fairly steadily. There was plenty of tent thumping during the night to keep the snow load off the tent. By morning the snow was roughly about 200 mm deep and the landscape had turned white. We aborted and headed back out. Great experience.
Cheers
Andrew

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep, 2009 9:19 am
by Phil
scavenger wrote:I can't see any knees.


I can't even see any of the photos :? They don't seem to be opening up?

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep, 2009 11:04 am
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep, 2009 5:13 pm
by corvus
scavenger wrote:I can't see any knees. Don't tell me the old man of the mountains is wearing something over his shorts?

Even this old man wears overpants at times :lol:
c

Re: A walk in the snow - not quite to Meston

PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep, 2009 6:05 pm
by Nick S
looks like it was character building :)

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep, 2009 7:55 pm
by corvus
Nick S wrote:looks like it was character building :)


Did make for really good team work.
c

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Sep, 2009 12:33 am
by johnw
Some good shots there, obviously not an easy trip. Well done :). How difficult was it to see those stick/snow poles across Blizzard Plain in that stuff, although the bits of pink tape on them would have helped a bit I guess.

How long did it take to de-ice and pack up the tents?

Re: A walk in the snow - not quite to Meston

PostPosted: Thu 03 Sep, 2009 9:40 am
by sthughes
johnw wrote:Some good shots there, obviously not an easy trip. Well done :). How difficult was it to see those stick/snow poles across Blizzard Plain in that stuff, although the bits of pink tape on them would have helped a bit I guess.

How long did it take to de-ice and pack up the tents?


Well the poles were pretty easy to find as they were the only thing sticking above the snow, however there were only a few at each end of the plain, so the middle bit was more guesswork. Most of the pink tape is off white now, so not a huge help. Blizzard plain would be a tough spot had the weather been really bad.

Actually it wasn't that cold overnight so the tents weren't frozen (unfortunatley in some ways). So it was just a matter of shaking the snow off and digging the pegs, trekking poles etc. out of the hard packed snow, which my Ipood made short work of :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Sep, 2009 9:30 pm
by flyfisher
Great reports STH and Brett, and some nice pics to back them up.

a chorus of snoring broke out in the largest tent in the camp site.



Never heard a thing :lol:

It was a good trip, definitely not a failure, but just an acceptance that Meston will have to wait for another time. It was my first time camping on snow and although the 4 pole tent is very solid it does take a bit more effort to erect and dismantle.
The yowies certainly proved their worth as it would have been tough travelling without them. Just shows how hard it must have been for the old trappers like Arthur Youd who used to operate from the Meston area.I think they must have caught all the wallabys as we didn't see any.
The trip finished with about a 4km road bash with STH and Geoskid sharing line honours and Speculator and Flyfisher arriving at the cars shortly after. :D
Some aches and pains were detected in various body parts and my knee still has some fluid in it but is working fine.
Thanks to all other party members and special thanks to the snowploughs.(love to be that fit again)

ff

Re: A walk in the snow - not quite to Meston

PostPosted: Thu 03 Sep, 2009 10:18 pm
by corvus
A final concensus on this trip was that we will all be taking a large wide mouth" special bottle "with us on future snow /heavy rain trips mine will need to be at least 500ml cap to cater for at least two visits :lol:
c

Re: A walk in the snow - not quite to Meston

PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep, 2009 12:22 pm
by Steve
That camp in the middle of the snow looks awesome. 8)

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Sep, 2009 12:09 pm
by Penguin
Steve wrote:That camp in the middle of the snow looks awesome. 8)


First time I have camped on snow rather than in snow. Surprisingly comfortable if you stayed on the thermarest. Cooking etc not a problem. The conga line with Yowies on compacted the powder snow well before we set up the tents.

The trip was a great time. It just goes to show that the journey is as important as the destination in bushwalking.

We might get a chance to follow Jackson's track in summer.....

Re: A walk in the snow - not quite to Meston

PostPosted: Mon 14 Sep, 2009 9:11 am
by Speculator
Hey y'all!

Thanks for the photos guys. After just arriving back from mid-20 degree days in Qld, it's er... interesting to be reminded that only a few weeks ago I was sleeping out in freezing temperatures! I took some photos myself, they're all up here if you're interested:

http://halandjane.smugmug.com/Bushwalking/15-Feet-of-Pure-White-Snow/16582677_3b2Pf

L8r.

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Sep, 2009 11:34 am
by Julafreak
I definitely havent seen enough snow yet... O.O

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct, 2009 9:46 pm
by lyndoor
Hey, Guys, what an adventure. Stories very entertaining & enjoyable to read. Loved the 'incidentals'! :lol: Great photos too.

Planning to do this walk shortly with some friends, with less snow hopefully otherwise we will be backtracking home! :?

Just curious about those tents, they stood up well. What were they?

lyndoor

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 6:42 am
by sthughes
Well the three on the left (from front) are my Macpac Microlight, Speculator's WE Second Arrow and Pomysi's MSR Hubba Hp. The ones on the right I'm not so sure but I think Geoskid's Macpac Minaret, Brett's Hilleberg Akto?? (on far right), Penguin's weird but good Big Angnes (half single skin eVent) tent, and the purple and green one up the back is Flyfisher's old tent (Fairydown maybe??). Corvus' dining shelter fly on the left didn't handle the snow so well, but was still handy :wink:

Have fun - it's a really nice walk, be even better without sooo much snow!

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 7:50 am
by Speculator
lyndoor wrote:Hey, Guys, what an adventure. Stories very entertaining & enjoyable to read. Loved the 'incidentals'! :lol: Great photos too.

Planning to do this walk shortly with some friends, with less snow hopefully otherwise we will be backtracking home! :?

Just curious about those tents, they stood up well. What were they?

lyndoor


My Second Arrow stood up well. It's looks like there's a large area for the snow to build up on top, but the weight doesn't seem to affect the tent much. The arrow is great... if you don't like to sit up (or if you're tiny).

L8r.

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by Ent
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 4:24 pm
by flyfisher
sthughes wrote:and the purple and green one up the back is Flyfisher's old tent (Fairydown maybe??).


Hey!! Don't knock the Fairydown Plateau, it's a real 4 seasons tent. :D Indestructable (well almost) but it weighs about 4kg. :) :roll:
I think you're a bit jealous. :lol: :lol:

ff

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 4:38 pm
by sthughes
Oi I wasn't knocking it!
Sure it's purple but not as purple as your fleece trousers, sure it's heavy but not as heavy as Corvus' Ti spoon. :D

Jealous - huh! Sure it's a 4 season design but that was before climate change so we no longer have winter and so my 3 season does just fine! As if I'd want an overweight purple tent with a mad drunk snoring Scotsman in it anyway! :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 5:02 pm
by corvus
sthughes wrote:Oi I wasn't knocking it!
Sure it's purple but not as purple as your fleece trousers, sure it's heavy but not as heavy as Corvus' Ti spoon. :D

Jealous - huh! Sure it's a 4 season design but that was before climate change so we no longer have winter and so my 3 season does just fine! As if I'd want an overweight purple tent with a mad drunk snoring Scotsman in it anyway! :lol:


There was a wee cheeky newly bearded youth in a microlite doing a lot of wood cutting ,the supposed mad drunken Scotsman was too knackered to even use up his medicinal vodka or even open up his wine to get a "glow on " and had the pleasure of hearing snoring from my good mate FF and eventually every other tent
:lol:
corvus

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 6:38 pm
by Penguin
My supposed "3 season" half dual skin/half single skin tent again stood up well. Shed the snow well and was good and cosy inside. Because free standing did not need many pegs. As no snow pegs, I just buried the normal pegs tied perpendicular to the guys.

One day the tent will let me down, but so far it ahs been comfortable in snow, wind and rain.

Good to see all the tents stood the weather - great weekend.

P

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 7:50 pm
by corvus
Interesting take on this thread not all Tents were 4 season rated and all withstood crapacious constant snow (no wind in a corvus selected spot ) albeit with the need to shake snow off /down on a couple I believe that all were 4 season capable .
corvus