A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

Forum rules

Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

Common words
Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg
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UL stool.

Tue 17 May, 2022 11:29 am

Yeah yeah - I know chairs and stools just don't fit the ethos of Ultralight hiking BUT I've just purchased an UL ~260gm collapsible hiking stool ($30) and wondered if others have also tried one?
Although its made (claimed) from aviation grade aluminium - I'm dubious as to it's durability. I wish it was about 5cm higher - it's suitable for sitting but not relaxing/reclining.
I have a quality Helinox ChairZero but the packed down size/weight is still 'biggish' and I would probably not take it again - except on 1 or 2 night hike.

Re: UL stool.

Tue 17 May, 2022 11:49 am

What's the brand Stew?
Is there a link?
John

Re: UL stool.

Wed 18 May, 2022 10:02 am

When I fist saw this I thought it was about your diet Stew. :shock: :lol:
But I digress...Give me a piece of 10mm CCF chopped to my arrse size-at 20 gms. Much more comfy than any stool, back panel of my ruckie as well.
However, I do know someone that is UL (BW under 4kgs-with the chair) that used one. Liked it at first but it did fall to bits. From AE. Tied it to the outside of his ruckie with 2mm bungy. Not in Oz-no trees/bush.

Re: UL stool.

Wed 18 May, 2022 10:07 am

Have to admit that when I first saw the topic title, I thought it might get me over my main problem with carrying a poo tube - the loss of ongoing weight reduction during a walk.

Very disappointing, Stew.
Or do I mean "very disappointing stew"?

Re: UL stool.

Wed 18 May, 2022 11:17 am

I used to scoff at the idea of a hike chair or stool until a mate - who's definitely a gram-weenie - started carrying one. Why? "Because sitting in one at the end of the day is the difference between being physically able to do big long trips, and not being able to do big long trips." He's got 25 years on me but it was a bit of a revelation in terms of looking after your body.

Not much point carrying one when you're walking long days and jumping straight into the tent afterwards, but for more relaxed trips with lots of campside socialising I've found the Chair Zero good to have.
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