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High Vis gear

Postby vicrev » Thu 29 Jan, 2015 7:32 pm

Noticing more people are wearing High Vis gear, when bushwalking,is it to scare the snakes away? or, easier to rescue someone in difficulty ? Bushwalking club recommendation ?....Just interested.. :)
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Strider » Thu 29 Jan, 2015 7:33 pm

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Re: High Vis gear

Postby vicrev » Thu 29 Jan, 2015 7:36 pm

Aaahh........silly me :) ......In National Parks :?
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Lindsay » Thu 29 Jan, 2015 7:37 pm

High vis gear is an abomination and should be shunned by all bushwalkers. It should be easy enough to attract attention by using a space blanket or other coloured bit of kit out of your pack as needed rather than standing out like the proverbial dogs bollocks unnecessarily.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby stry » Thu 29 Jan, 2015 9:02 pm

Euro trekking style influence ???
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby stry » Thu 29 Jan, 2015 9:04 pm

Strider wrote:Hunters


I think not :) .

When did you move back to the mainland ? (just noticed)
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Gadgetgeek » Fri 30 Jan, 2015 5:45 pm

could be that the cheaper gear is either hi-vis, or camo. I've decided to add more viability to my gear since if I end up face down somewhere, I'll be pretty well invisible, and thats just by accident of buying green and black gear all the time.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby oyster_07 » Fri 30 Jan, 2015 5:57 pm

Just to throw it out there, but....

The principal search tool (beyond the naked eyed) used by airborne SAR is thermal imaging. If you wrap yourself in a thermal 'space' blanket, you will be essentially wearing an invisibility cloak. Sure, your head or whatever will remain un-cloaked, but the thermal signature will be massively reduced.

For me, I make sure an item in my kit is suitably coloured to act as a marker panel.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Moondog55 » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 7:55 am

Well I think it's partly a switch to UL gear, both new UL and cheap workwear have the same aim, to be seen
While I would normally wear earth colours, a lot of my new UL gear is dayglo [ or black] because that is the only colours it comes in, I think my windshirt would be visible at 100 metres in a snowstorm
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Empty » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 8:24 am

As far as bushwalking gear goes I prefer stealthy colours. But for people cycling on the roads I think hi viz should be mandatory.

Up here in the country there is a certain irony in that cyclists dress like magpies, seeming to be absorbed by the colour of the road whereas you'll have a bloke sitting behind the wheel of a truck for 12 hours a day wearing a bight yellow shirt.

Apparently some cyclists wouldn't be seen dead wearing a high viz shirt - literally!
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby neilmny » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 8:33 am

Empty wrote:.........Apparently some cyclists wouldn't be seen dead wearing a high viz shirt ......


It's a pity they don't feeel the same way about Lycra :shock: :lol:

Some of the Hi Vis work wear is very light weight and surprisingly warm. I have to wear it when on site
as do the truck drivers...it's not about being in the truck.........I would love to be able get a fleece zip neck top
in the same light material (but of a less visually impacting colour) for the low price you can get these for.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Empty » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 8:46 am

Yes, I understand the OH and S issues Neil. I work in manufacturing myself and live in hi viz heaven. It was more the irony that those who need it most seem to shun it.

I don't wear lycra but if I were to ever cycle on the road I would wear the Nylex Clock.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby neilmny » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 9:16 am

Empty wrote:Yes, I understand the OH and S issues Neil. I work in manufacturing myself and live in hi viz heaven. It was more the irony that those who need it most seem to shun it.

I don't wear lycra but if I were to ever cycle on the road I would wear the Nylex Clock.


Sorry Empty I wasn't trying to educate. It was my inept way of leading into a point about the warm, light weight
and cheap product not being available in more earthy colours.
The Hi Viz stuff even seems to wick or at least ventilate quite well.
I used to ride on the road but not any more, it's *&%$#! terrifying. I did wear a Hi Viz top back then but never Lycra.
It's amazing how far away you can be seen or at least detected with those colours on.

oyster_07 makes a very good point about the space blanket blocking thermal imaging too.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Empty » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 4:33 pm

No problems Neil

I did not interpret it as a lecture. I agree that the point about thermal imaging is interesting and not one that had crossed my mind from an s & r perspective.

Always good to learn.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby corvus » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 5:04 pm

neilmny wrote:
Empty wrote:.........Apparently some cyclists wouldn't be seen dead wearing a high viz shirt ......


It's a pity they don't feeel the same way about Lycra :shock: :lol:

Some of the Hi Vis work wear is very light weight and surprisingly warm. I have to wear it when on site
as do the truck drivers...it's not about being in the truck.........I would love to be able get a fleece zip neck top
in the same light material (but of a less visually impacting colour) for the low price you can get these for.


I own a fleece zip neck top in Hi Vis orange and blue weighs 689g was a work issue sample :) have only worn it on the pushbike in Winter ,cannot see it replacing my other subdued coloured jackets ,I do however have a bright red LW fleece jumper a bright red ABC cap and a red merino fleece short sleeved thermal top that I do wear on the track :lol:
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby ErichFromm » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 6:47 pm

Once walked lickhole track (!) up Howqua way and when we finished near the hut found about a dozen hunters with dogs, rifles and a few *&%$#! deer heads: we wish we'd been wearing hi viz.....
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby corvus » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 7:04 pm

ErichFromm wrote:Once walked lickhole track (!) up Howqua way and when we finished near the hut found about a dozen hunters with dogs, rifles and a few *&%$#! deer heads: we wish we'd been wearing hi viz.....


Don't Like the Deer Killing ,a fact of life did of life though , was the meat used ?
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby ErichFromm » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 7:34 pm

I don't know if the meat was used. It was my friend and I's first encounter with guns and dead things so we kept our distance (we felt a bit of a "Deliverance" vibe initially and weren't keen on being told to "squeal like a pig". They passed us later in their 4x4s though and seemed friendly enough). I eat meat so don't think I'm in a position to judge people killing their own provided it's done properly... Our concern was having hiked for 7 hours in the same area the hunters were doing their thing...

Just noticed my earlier post had a word describing the fact there was a lot of blood with the deer heads and it's been replaced with &%$#! is that an automatic thing?
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby north-north-west » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 7:43 pm

ErichFromm wrote:Just noticed my earlier post had a word describing the fact there was a lot of blood with the deer heads and it's been replaced with &%$#! is that an automatic thing?

The swear filter. It's a *&%$#! pain in the *&%$#! sometimes. What has this world come to when a good ol' Aussie can't even say '*&%$#!' without being censored . . .
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Pika » Mon 02 Feb, 2015 8:46 am

north-north-west wrote:
ErichFromm wrote:Just noticed my earlier post had a word describing the fact there was a lot of blood with the deer heads and it's been replaced with &%$#! is that an automatic thing?

The swear filter. It's a *&%$#! pain in the *&%$#! sometimes. What has this world come to when a good ol' Aussie can't even say '*&%$#!' without being censored . . .


*&%$ oath. Haha.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Earwig » Mon 02 Feb, 2015 10:29 am

I was chatting with the local fishing and hunting gear shop guy and he sells lots of cammo coloured gear - cammo water bottles, cammo multitools, cammo fish knives etc. Seems people put the gear down and can't find it again and have to buy new stuff.

Deer hunters wear 'blaze orange' I believe.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby horsecat » Mon 02 Feb, 2015 10:41 am

Earwig wrote:Deer hunters wear 'blaze orange' I believe


They wear orange for safety reasons - law in some places. Deer can't see blaze orange
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby MountainQuoll » Mon 02 Feb, 2015 12:03 pm

Some time ago a friend and I were walking at Mt McDonald (near Mansfield) when some hunters turned the nearby area into a free-fire zone. We used our whistles to identify ourselves as *not* being deer. When we spoke to one of them later, they suggested that we should wear blaze orange. While I'm happy that people are out removing feral animals it subsequently occurred to me that anyone who hadn't properly identified their target before shooting at it probably shouldn't have a gun licence in the first place.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Travis22 » Mon 02 Feb, 2015 12:42 pm

Orange is the new Black! Seriously!

Blaze orange is worn by some hunters and is gaining popularity, however there is no legal requirement in Australia to wear it but many clubs or group gatherings often specify anyone hunting on the trip must wear something blaze orange.

I wear a blaze orange hat when hunting for some piece of mind but ive heard many people say while the deer cannot see blaze orange every other animal / bird in the bush certainly can and their alarm can / does spook the deer anyways.

On a non hunting trip - bushwalking i dont wear anything brightly coloured and feel no need to do so.

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Re: High Vis gear

Postby neilmny » Mon 02 Feb, 2015 12:50 pm

MountainQuoll wrote:.......it subsequently occurred to me that anyone who hadn't properly identified their target before shooting at it probably shouldn't have a gun licence in the first place.


Very true it is the law, but, if a "hunter" made this mistake someone would still be dead........better to be seen.
I have relations that hunt and I believe they must wear a hi viz blaze orange beanie????????????????
Seems sensible to me that where you might meet up with hunters to wear one yourself. (I do)
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Travis22 » Mon 02 Feb, 2015 12:51 pm

MountainQuoll wrote:Some time ago a friend and I were walking at Mt McDonald (near Mansfield) when some hunters turned the nearby area into a free-fire zone. We used our whistles to identify ourselves as *not* being deer. When we spoke to one of them later, they suggested that we should wear blaze orange. While I'm happy that people are out removing feral animals it subsequently occurred to me that anyone who hadn't properly identified their target before shooting at it probably shouldn't have a gun licence in the first place.


Anyone randomly shooting in the bush (public land) isnt 'hunting' and they have no place being in the bush doing so. They are not hunters and they are a disgrace to all genuine hunters. If possible you should have noted their vehicle registration details and passed them onto the local police, odds are nothing would come of it but id hope the police would at least give them a call and remind them firearm ownership is a privilege and not a right and if they want to fire off a bunch of rounds to go to a range or do it on private property.

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Re: High Vis gear

Postby stry » Mon 02 Feb, 2015 3:44 pm

Pika wrote:
north-north-west wrote:
ErichFromm wrote:Just noticed my earlier post had a word describing the fact there was a lot of blood with the deer heads and it's been replaced with &%$#! is that an automatic thing?

The swear filter. It's a *&%$#! pain in the *&%$#! sometimes. What has this world come to when a good ol' Aussie can't even say '*&%$#!' without being censored . . .


*&%$ oath. Haha.


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Re: High Vis gear

Postby vicrev » Mon 02 Feb, 2015 6:12 pm

Pika wrote:
north-north-west wrote:
ErichFromm wrote:Just noticed my earlier post had a word describing the fact there was a lot of blood with the deer heads and it's been replaced with &%$#! is that an automatic thing?

The swear filter. It's a *&%$#! pain in the *&%$#! sometimes. What has this world come to when a good ol' Aussie can't even say '*&%$#!' without being censored . .

:lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: ....The filter missed a #,so ,it's not really swearing.............
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby Lotsafreshair » Wed 04 Feb, 2015 1:31 pm

I have a wee motto... (one of many)... that unless someone is shooting at you (intentionally), don't wear camo!

Just from an SAR perspective, the number of times we've turned up for a search with BWRS and the description of the missing person includes camo pants (and sometimes more), we all let out a groan. It seems particularly popular with young guys.

Our uniforms are hi-viz yellow (sorry Lindsay!) breathable t-shirts and rain jackets. So often we are searching through scrub that is so thick our team members are only 2 metres from someone else, but can't see them, except for the hi viz shirt. (ie. we wear whatever pants we want, usually 'bushwalking beige' or grey.
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Re: High Vis gear

Postby oyster_07 » Wed 04 Feb, 2015 3:23 pm

While I was away in Afghanistan, a guy was trying to hit on my partner one night. He was wearing stylised dog-tag jewellery and, when she asked him about it, he said he wore it because it is masculine. My partner quickly shot him down to size with words.
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