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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby johnw » Mon 14 Mar, 2011 12:19 am

vagrom wrote:Noone's mentioned Mt Anne (?) so I guess it doesn't rate highly overall. I have a Tassie newspaper item that describes it as the state's greatest 'daywalk' elevation gain and recognised as such. That would be a gain of between 1 and 1.2k.

Chapman Daywalks book lists it as 1420m total climbing, from the car park at Condominium Creek.
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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby stepbystep » Mon 14 Mar, 2011 9:26 am

vagrom wrote:Noone's mentioned Mt Anne (?) so I guess it doesn't rate highly overall. I have a Tassie newspaper item that describes it as the state's greatest 'daywalk' elevation gain and recognised as such. That would be a gain of between 1 and 1.2k.


I'd say it has to be Australia's greatest daywalk(if not 'biggest'). If you think of the height gain(which is substantial) combined with views obtained/effort - I doubt very much it could be rivaled(in fine weather of course).
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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby melinda » Tue 15 Mar, 2011 9:23 pm

Hannels Spur : Geehi Flats to top of Kossie

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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby vagrom » Thu 17 Mar, 2011 9:09 pm

Now just a cotton picking moment... :?

Chapman does indeed claim a 1420m elevation gain for the Southwest's highest peak.(citation needed) But that must be a typo because he also notes the carpark at ~350m, on the little elevation chart and there's not that much down on the way up to Anne's top, at 1420m.
Thomas and Klinge's Australian Mountains: The Best 100 Walks(1998) give a list on p.12 of the "Top 10 Peaks (Height Variation)" :

Bartle Frere: 1542m gain;
Bogong: 1401, Feathertop: 1372, The Bluff: 1175;
Barney: 1136;
Anne: 1105, Frenchman's: 1088, Roland: 990, Black Bluff: 984, Federation: 969.

So Victoria's part of the Alps is more "peaky" and NSW's more undulating, notwithstanding Hannel's Spur, ( which may be a ring in, showing the old cross-border rivalry still at work ).
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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby eggs » Fri 18 Mar, 2011 3:56 pm

Actually - if we bring up and down into play - I have on record our walk from Junction Creek into Lake Oberon with packs at roughly 1400m climbing for the day.
I reckon a stu would have been up and back in a day - racking up a lot more than 1400m in the process. :wink:
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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby vagrom » Fri 18 Mar, 2011 5:30 pm

So, it's all relative? You really need to start counting from the nearest low tide mark?
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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby north-north-west » Wed 23 Mar, 2011 8:08 pm

eggs wrote:There are some descriptions on this site of Hannels Spur.
The photo of the sign post at the bottom says Kosciosko is 15.5 km and 1800m up the track.
Not sure if anyone goes up and back in the same day.


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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Wed 23 Mar, 2011 8:12 pm

vagrom wrote:Now just a cotton picking moment... :?

Chapman does indeed claim a 1420m elevation gain for the Southwest's highest peak.(citation needed) But that must be a typo because he also notes the carpark at ~350m, on the little elevation chart and there's not that much down on the way up to Anne's top, at 1420m.
Thomas and Klinge's Australian Mountains: The Best 100 Walks(1998) give a list on p.12 of the "Top 10 Peaks (Height Variation)" :

Bartle Frere: 1542m gain;
Bogong: 1401, Feathertop: 1372, The Bluff: 1175;
Barney: 1136;
Anne: 1105, Frenchman's: 1088, Roland: 990, Black Bluff: 984, Federation: 969.

So Victoria's part of the Alps is more "peaky" and NSW's more undulating, notwithstanding Hannel's Spur, ( which may be a ring in, showing the old cross-border rivalry still at work ).



PB from Cavern Camp should be in there too. Starts from sea level to over 1100m
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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Wed 23 Mar, 2011 8:14 pm

eggs wrote:Actually - if we bring up and down into play - I have on record our walk from Junction Creek into Lake Oberon with packs at roughly 1400m climbing for the day.
I reckon a stu would have been up and back in a day - racking up a lot more than 1400m in the process. :wink:



MJD and I did The Eastern Arthurs year before last over 4.5 days. During that 4.5 days we did over 6000m Or Ascent. If we add Descent as well it would have been twice that.
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Re: Biggest day hike climb in Australia ??

Postby vagrom » Wed 23 Mar, 2011 10:32 pm

Does anyone know about the old Geeves track, last re-cut by the Manuka club in 1970 from Hartz pass down to the Picton, presumably close to Farmhouse Creek (Tramp #22(1976): Judds Cavern by Hilary Crane) ? There's a map included, with a short continuation pointing to "Geeves Track up to the Hartz Mountain", on the east side of the Picton River.

Sea to Summit tracks exists in only two Aussie cities: Adelaide and Hobart. It's only that old, overgrown section (above mentioned) of the route from Geeveston into the South-West, that prevents a Sea to Summit to Federation. I don't know if anyone's actually done a Penguin to Ossa with that intention.
Was it Bob the other day who talked of the Wellington Range as a way of accessing the South West on foot, from Hobart? I'm guessing that would be heading for the Old Port Davey Track, close to Mt Meuller.

John Cannon did a piece on the Old Hartz/Kermandie Track, on 26 December 2010, in his weekly Sunday Tasmanian column. They visited the falls and then walked the track from Bennets Road, up to the car park on top where the Geeves' hut used to be.("< 3hrs",one way) E.T Emmet wrote a detailed account of the 1897 tragedy in The Tas. Tramp#10 (1952?) p.8. They made their way up a blazed route along the Hartz creek.Luckman and Davies in The South-West Book p.36, note the track cut by Osborne Geeves in 1898. Was this a more direct route from Hartz Pass/Lake Hartz, down to Farmhouse Creek, about 8 km's away?
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