Tue 27 Nov, 2018 8:09 am
gayet wrote:More from the ABC - certainly getting a bit of traction
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-27/lake-malbena-developement-concerns-for-tas-aboriginal-community/10553720
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 8:34 am
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 9:03 am
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 10:06 am
Son of a Beach wrote:gayet wrote:More from the ABC - certainly getting a bit of traction
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-27/lake-malbena-developement-concerns-for-tas-aboriginal-community/10553720
One of the subtle, but notable, differences in this article when compared to most of the previous ones, is the way it counts helicopter flights. In most of the previous articles I've seen, they state things like "120 helicopter flights into...". Whereas this one says 240 helicopter flights. I guess that includes in and out. Which makes a lot more sense, as there will be two completely separate flights for each drop off or pick up.
On average, that's more than one helicopter flight per day throughout the year. When crammed into the summer months, that's a LOT of helicopter flights buzzing about!
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 10:11 am
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 11:43 am
stepbystep wrote:*uproar pending
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 11:56 am
Son of a Beach wrote:stepbystep wrote:*uproar pending
And I think the uproar is going to be enormous if it all gets finally approved. I don't think I've heard of this much general community opposition to an environmentally destructive proposal since the Franklin dam, except for perhaps the Wesley Vale and Tamar Valley pulp mills.
In fact, there are some remarkable similarities to the Tamar Valley pulp mill process in that the government was only able to say that the pulp mill met all the environmental conditions, because they explicitly rewrote the law to allow for the failings where it could not meet the previous restrictions. This is effectively what they've done with this proposal. It could not be done within the law, just a few short years ago. The laws that were explicitly put in place to protect the wilderness. Now the laws have been changed to deliberately exploit the wilderness.
This is the kind of bureaucratic hypocrisy which caused even some of those who agreed with a pulp mill in principle to rally against that specific Tamar Valley pulp mill proposal.
The rezoning that has been done for this project is like what they did when they revoked the Lake Pedder area from the national park in 1967. Not to the same level of destruction (I hope!), but it illustrates that national parks and world heritage status in Tasmania are meaningless and have no value. The government, GBEs, or even private enterprises can take what they like from national parks or world heritage areas, even against the advice of the government's own advisory bodies.
It almost makes me ashamed to be Tasmanian.
It's a bit like taking rich tourists trophy-hunting for elephants or lions in Africa.
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 12:57 pm
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 2:44 pm
stepbystep wrote:*uproar pending
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 2:58 pm
ILUVSWTAS wrote:Indeed SOB. Very well said.
Can we get you on the opposing project team to speak at rallies?
Tue 27 Nov, 2018 3:04 pm
Son of a Beach wrote:ILUVSWTAS wrote:Indeed SOB. Very well said.
Can we get you on the opposing project team to speak at rallies?
I'm terrible at public speaking. But if required, I may find myself camped in that area at all the wrong times. I've already booked in one trip in a few weeks time.
Wed 28 Nov, 2018 4:07 am
Wed 28 Nov, 2018 5:02 am
Joel wrote:Hackett has lost it I reckon.
Mr Hackett said: “As a small family business it is horrific to hear the extremes that this small group of anglers are willing to go to in order to destroy us personally, destroy our business, and all in the fear of other projects that don’t even exist.”
Wed 28 Nov, 2018 6:29 am
Joel wrote: If it's such a small group why don't you jump on the flylife forum or on this thread and explain your thought process directly to the current user group Daniel? I would be very interested to hear how your ethics have changed so abruptly over the past few years.
Wed 28 Nov, 2018 8:51 am
Wed 28 Nov, 2018 10:20 am
Son of a Beach wrote:He used to be a member of this forum. But that was a long time ago. Eg: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2718#p27793
Wed 28 Nov, 2018 10:23 am
Son of a Beach wrote:He used to be a member of this forum. But that was a long time ago. Eg: http://bushwalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 718#p27793
Wed 28 Nov, 2018 10:27 am
bushwalker zane wrote:Son of a Beach wrote:He used to be a member of this forum. But that was a long time ago. Eg: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2718#p27793
Hm. I didn't think you could delete a profile on a forum such as this. Thar you go.
Wed 28 Nov, 2018 12:21 pm
Wed 28 Nov, 2018 12:29 pm
Son of a Beach wrote:That's correct. There can sometimes be significant issues with deleting an account and on many forums admins try to avoid it unless it really is necessary. There were a very small number that I deleted when I was an admin here. Eg, the first one I deleted was requested by the widow of a member who had passed away, and she wanted to stop getting notification emails about replies to topics that he had subscribed to.
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 7:38 am
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Fri 07 Dec, 2018 5:58 am
Fri 07 Dec, 2018 6:47 am
taswegian wrote:Haven't been reading all the way, but I see the whole island now shows as a lease.
Previously it had some odd shaped licence. That appears to have gone since I last looked.
When is the planning application being presented to council?
Fri 07 Dec, 2018 7:06 am
Fri 07 Dec, 2018 9:25 am
taswegian wrote:Thanks
Not sure why LIST changed so late in the day.
The planning application will have to be advertised.
Hope I don't miss it
Fri 07 Dec, 2018 9:39 am
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