wildwanderer wrote:Great choice on the exos pack.
wildwanderer wrote:Don't get a pack cover. Get a pack liner instead. Osprey and sea to summit make decent ones.
A pack cover won't keep your stuff dry if you drop it into a creek. A pack liner will. Might not need even a liner if you (as you mentioned) already have your gear stored in dry bags. I usually just use a liner. For a waist deep river crossing i wrap my sleeping bag in a garbage bag as a added precaution. But in practice the water has never penetrated the liner. (I test mine periodically)
With nylon packs the water absorption is minimal.
Also wouldn't recommend having your $$ dyneema tent on the outside of your pack. Twigs and other sharp stuff could damage it
EGM wrote:Another reason is to keep sea spray off the pack and salt out if the zips and buckles. We do lots of coastal trips and I hate to think of the damage the salt is doing.
Eremophila wrote:Pack cover is also handy to sit on and keep your bum dry, or for stacking stuff on while you’re packing up the tent.
kelvinn wrote:nylofume bags are my current go-to for pack liners. I think Orange Brown and Ultralight Hiker have them.
kelvinn wrote: If I didn't have this bag then I'd probably get a Glad Tuff Stuff Tidy bag: $4 per 15 count. 27L (medium and 35L (large) sizes available. Save some $$$ for something else on the ever growing backpacking to-buy list
Bill P wrote:Hi Dexter,
I agree with the pack liner idea. I use one with my Exos in heavy weather. The Exos has a problem with the poor water seal up top due to the removeable lid . I dont like pack covers as they can blow off, catch on scrub and the bottom seem to fill up with water.
I have removed the steel frame and seam sealed the entire bag inside. Its a bit awkward and you mightn't want to do that with a brand new bag. There are a lot of seams on this bag due to fashion considerations, but I think seam sealing is a good mod, especially for the top pocket which is easy to seal. On most walks I dont take my Sea to Summit liner.
Bill
Eremophila wrote:Re pack covers accumulating water in the bottom - my STS has an eyelet, as I imagine most of them would, for drainage. Haven't had a problem with this.
I'm not favouring one option over the other, just making the observation.
CBee wrote:Exos + pack cover for me didn't work. Exos absorbing too much water on harness and cover getting caught on branches and scrub ecc. I find HMG southwest with liner better for wet TW.
Dexter wrote:Yeah the idea of being able to setup and pull down the shelter without needing to open up the pack is appealing. That, and all the extra room in the pack would be lovely My tarptent has a DCF stuff sack. I like your idea of wrapping it, I don't use a sit pad but I did grab some Tyvek as a footprint, so maybe I could wrap it up in that and secure it with some bungee cord or similar. Cheers.
CBee wrote:Exos + pack cover for me didn't work. Exos absorbing too much water on harness and cover getting caught on branches and scrub ecc. I find HMG southwest with liner better for wet TW.
Warin wrote:. I think something to cover the shoulders as well would reduce the water tricking down your back - and the pack. Perhaps with a hood too.
Warin wrote:What makes the HMG harness better water wise than the Exos?
Warin wrote:Some thoughts on a DIY pack cover. Not made one yet... so ideas only.
Material: Sil poly as it is reasonably cheap and doesn't absorb much water.
Design ..
Most just do the pack back.
I think something to cover the shoulders as well would reduce the water tricking down your back - and the pack. Perhaps with a hood too.
Attachment ... in use..
2 loops at the top that the load lifters go through - the load lifters need to be undone to get them through the loops, thus your pack cover is permanently on the pack at the top ready to use .. and won't easily go missing.
The usual elastic cord at the bottom?
Attachment .. storage..
Roll it up into a tube at the top of the pack - still attached to the load lifters. Two small elastic loops to fasten the tube roll so it does not unintentionally come undone.
headwerkn wrote:Warin wrote:What makes the HMG harness better water wise than the Exos?
Not entirely sure but likely because they're thin and wide. Provided you get your back length fitted correctly they are immensely comfortable packs. Even my Arcteryx Bora AR - the supposed 'king' of comfortable, plush foam, full harness packs - isn't as good.
wildwanderer wrote:I like the hmg packs. The issue for me is they don't have the back ventilation that the exos has. I sweat buckets on my back whenever it's in contact with less breathable material.
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