Bushwalk Australia

Posted: **Sun 25 Oct, 2009 8:01 pm**

Similarly to my earlier question on 4 season tents, I'm also curious to know how much other peoples stoves weigh. It's difficult to do a fair comparison, as some will include pots, windshields, etc in the weight, but I'd like to see some figures anyhow.

Of course weight isn't the only factor to consider when choosing gear, but when you're carrying all your gear, weight is certainly an important consideration. So I'd like to know:

brand and model
weight in grams
fuel type (eg gas, metho)
components included (eg. stove only, 2 pots + windshield)

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Posted: **Sun 25 Oct, 2009 8:04 pm**

Well, I don't actually own this stove yet. I have the Kovea Supalite on layby (which is what prompted this topic, of course ;-)

), and have asked my wife to pay it off for my birthday. It was not in stock in any of the shops I visited (it seems that most people prefer the marginally heavier 'Titatium' model with the ignition), so I had to put in on order:

brand and model: Kovea Supalite
weight in grams: 60g
fuel type: gas
components included: stove only

When I first started bushwalking, I used a small gas stove (the old pierce canister variety). It was great, but very small, and the piercing gas canisters was inconvenient in terms of packing and storage (and safety, perhaps?). So when it came to buying another stove I decided that I needed more capacity, as most of my walking involved sharing cooking with groups. So I got a Trangia (metho, largest model), which has been great, and which I still use. More recently I got the gas conversion kit for it (remembering how good it was to actually cook with gas on the little old stove, compared to metho), and it's a fantastic stove for group cooking (and a very convenient kit with all the pots, pans & windshield included in a reasonably tight fitting bundle).

However, the largest Trangia is a little heavy for solo or self-catering walks (which I do more of these days), and I thought it was time to do my back a favour and lighten up.

From what I can tell, the "Supalite" is the same as the Kovea "Titanium" but without the push button ignition, which I don't want, as I'd never rely on it anyhow, and I always carry two Bic Flicks (which have never gone wrong - maybe I should only carry one?).

It's not as light as Tony's 8g home made job, but I reckon 60g is still a great weight for a stove.

Posted: **Sun 25 Oct, 2009 9:04 pm**

brand and model: Snow Peak GST-100A (Ti with ignition)
weight in grams: 88g (weighed)
fuel type: Canister gas
components included: stove only

I think these are the same as the Kovea Ti stoves. Bought it in the US with some other gear.

Posted: **Mon 26 Oct, 2009 8:59 am**

brand and model: Home made low-pressure side burner, made from a redbull can
weight in grams: approx 5g? (definitely less than 10g on my kitchen scales)
fuel type: metho
components included: stove only (stove is pot stand also)

I'll have to weigh my complete kit with windscreen and pots when I get home

Cheers,
Alliecat

Posted: **Mon 26 Oct, 2009 9:16 am**

photohiker wrote:
brand and model: Snow Peak GST-100A (Ti with ignition)
weight in grams: 88g (weighed)
I think these are the same as the Kovea Ti stoves. Bought it in the US with some other gear.

That's certainly the exact same weight as the Kovea Titatium to the gram :-)

(according to their web page).

alliecat wrote:
brand and model: Home made low-pressure side burner, made from a redbull can
weight in grams: approx 5g? (definitely less than 10g on my kitchen scales)

Those home-made stoves can be pretty good (for the weight) by the sound of it. And that's an impressively low weight, of course. Can you post a picture?

Posted: **Mon 26 Oct, 2009 1:31 pm**

brand and model: Trangia 27-5 UL
weight in grams: 798g (manuf. claimed - not certain mine is the current model but will chuck it on the scales... one day )
fuel type: alcohol
components included: burner, windshield/stand, 2 pots, 1 frypan, pot holder.

Posted: **Mon 26 Oct, 2009 4:33 pm**

brand and model: MSR WindPro
weight in grams: 170gms
fuel type: Gas
components included: Wind screen & storage bag

Posted: **Mon 26 Oct, 2009 6:57 pm**

brand and model: Kovea Superlight
weight in grams: 60g
fuel type: Gas
components included: Stove only

Then if I want to use a wind screen:

brand and model: Kovea Superlight & Brunton Stove Stand (with aluminium wind shield)
weight in grams: 270g
fuel type: Gas
components included: Stove, stand, wind shield

Pots I use:
300ml - 42g
1000ml - 117g (with lid)
1500ml - 142g (with lid)
(All cheap aluminium from Mitre-10)
Spondonicals - 48g (Trangia ones)
Small fry pan (K-mart non stick) - 270g

Really can't fault the little Kovea.

Posted: **Mon 26 Oct, 2009 8:20 pm**

Son of a Beach wrote:[

alliecat wrote:
brand and model: Home made low-pressure side burner, made from a redbull can
weight in grams: approx 5g? (definitely less than 10g on my kitchen scales)

Those home-made stoves can be pretty good (for the weight) by the sound of it. And that's an impressively low weight, of course. Can you post a picture?

Your wish...

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The little insert is the stove (two halves of a "V" energy drink can) and a pot stand made from galv mesh. If you put the pot directly on the stove (as shown in the main pic) the flames come out the sides and it heats pretty well. If you add the pot stand and the pot on that, the flame comes out the top hole and it burns cooler (a fast simmer). If I want to just boil water I just take the stove which is around 5g, if I want to cook stuff that needs to simmer I take the pot stand too which is an extra 10g or so.

This little stove is starting to get a bit bashed around after half a dozen or so trips but I have a spare made from a cat food tin ready to take over

Then there's the "cyclone" stove from a steel tin (burns in a circular whirlpool type patter looking down into it -very pretty) and a couple of variations on the cat food stove. At least my cats appreciate my hobbies

One day I might splash out on what I think of as the rolls-royce of metho stoves from packafeather.

For pots I have a tall pot + cup set (no brand) that weighs 200g with lid, and for 2 people we use the GSI dualist set which I think has a pot with lid at 300g plus two bowl+cup pairs at 80g each. (I would like a lighter cookset but the GSI all fits together so neatly it's hard to beat). The Al flashing windscreen is around 40g.

Cheers,
Alliecat

Posted: **Mon 26 Oct, 2009 9:04 pm**

Which one

corvus

Posted: **Tue 27 Oct, 2009 8:17 am**

corvus wrote:Which one
corvus

Probably both

Posted: **Tue 27 Oct, 2009 1:30 pm**

brand and model: Snow Peak GS-100
weight in grams: 80
fuel type: gas
components included: Stove only. Need matches/lighter. Does come with a plastic case that weighs 30g.

Actually got this as a starter kit that had a titanium spork and 700ml titanium cup/pot with handles and mesh bag (another 150g). All up 80+30+150 = 260g + gas + matches. Works well and gas cylinders fit nicely in the cup/pot.

Posted: **Fri 30 Oct, 2009 10:43 am**

brand and model: Pepsi can stove by Elo
weight in grams: 6g
fuel type: metho
components included: stove only

I use it with a smallish 1L capacity aluminium billy and add a windscreen around (aluminium, not sure how much it weights).
It needs about 15g of metho (max of max in very windy and very cold conditions) to boil a cup of water.

Posted: **Fri 30 Oct, 2009 12:08 pm**

I currently own 2 stoves. This one, which I've used for a few years:

brand and model: Kovea Solo KB-0409 (called "Hiker" when I bought it, but that name now applies to a different model)
weight in grams: 124
fuel type: Gas
components included: Stove only (includes piezo ignition)

...and this one, which I bought 2nd hand from another BWT member a few months ago. Yet to use it in the field, but have test fired and made coffee at home. Planning to take it on an overnight trip late next month.

brand and model: Kovea Titanium KB-0101
weight in grams: 88
fuel type: Gas
components included: Stove only (includes piezo ignition)

I mostly just use a small aluminium billy and a home made windshield/heat shield setup, which adds very little weight.

Posted: **Sun 01 Nov, 2009 8:34 pm**

As a Multi stove owner /collector I hope to post soon,in the mean time the Kovea Ti is good even though I broke the piezo without really trying(just press straight in and don't get distracted by nice girls/women whilst doing a demo :lol:

corvus

spelling corrected thanks

Posted: **Sun 01 Nov, 2009 10:25 pm**

...just press straight in and donut get distracted by nice girls/women whilst doing a demo

Looks like you got distracted whilst typing.... what's going on at your place?

Posted: **Thu 03 Dec, 2009 2:56 pm**

brand and model: ADF ratpack issue
weight in grams:200
fuel type : hexamine tablets
components included:stove, fuel, wind shield.

Old, but cheap, simple and reliable. The smell of burning hexamine is not as bad as they say and the sticky residue scrubs off with a little elbow grease. Takes up next to no space and while not as efficient as a modern stove, still gets the job done. :mrgreen:

Posted: **Tue 08 Jun, 2010 8:22 pm**

brand and model: Drink can (Coca-Cola) homemade
[*][b]weight in grams: approx. 6gms]
[*][b]fuel type: Methylated Spirits
[*][b]components included: burner

I prefer to cook on a fire but also have a number of stoves and they're all good(MSR Whispelite, Trangia, Kovea style gas, Esbit ). These days I only carry a Coke can stove which also doubles as it's own potstand. 30ml of meths will bring 500ml of water to the boil easily. I don't bother with simmering but a second burner with only 6-10 side burner jets simmers nicely. A safer,more stable potstand can be made from a small sliced pineapple tin with holes punch around the top and bottom rims using a triangular 'church key' type can opener. Alternatively you could use a 8ml-10ml drill for the holes.
For building instructions Google the site: Bushwalking in the Upper Blue Mountains , then click on Links in the menu on the left and look up the link to the lightweight drink can stove. You can also google Zen Stoves for lots of ideas. I find the side burner meths stoves the most versatile. Mark Jurey's "Penny Woodstove" site is excellent if you want to build your own Bush Buddy style of twig stove (fun but rather slow and fiddly to operate compared to a meths burner, although you don't have to carry fuel).

Regards,

wellsy

Posted: **Sat 19 Jun, 2010 8:49 am**

brand and model: MSR Pocket Rocket
weight in grams: 85 g (112g in plastic case)
fuel type: cannister gas (285g)
components included: need Bic light to light (11g)

Not the lightest around but is a good little stove that works well for me. Cost $60 on sale which was the deal breaker over lighter stoves (grams for dollars was good).

Steve

Posted: **Sat 19 Jun, 2010 2:26 pm**

steve,

with the pocket rocket, do you find that only the tips of the 3 fold out stands come in contact to support the pot? or the prongs actually fold out enough to become flat so the pot rests upon the stand and become stable?

i found that mine didnt fold out enough so that when its folded out, only the pointy tips of the 3 fold out prongs touch the pot. Dont know if mine is a defect, but my friend's has the same problem. if only it could fold out another few degrees...it would be perfect
this made my pot very unstable on the mountains where even a slight angle on the ground made it very unstable.

-1 pocket rocket

its a very robust stove. i chucked it in the freezer for a week, took it out and even with bits of ice formed around the vents, it still fired up first go!
with the optimus crux, the ice froze the stands and i couldnt fold them out, and the ice completely blocked the vents and the stove wouldnt start.

+ 1 pocket rocket

Posted: **Sat 19 Jun, 2010 3:22 pm**

I have a kovea moonwalker stove which weighs 340g. I had to get something very stable for use with a family around. One of these days I'll get a really light one.

Posted: **Sun 20 Jun, 2010 2:08 am**

mmm I just checked and your right, only the tips touch the base of the billy (cooking vessel). My Billy/cup is only small so it has never been a problem. I had a look at it and there is not enough metal to file it down so it opens further, I guess you could grind the top flat (loose a few gramss too

) It's not a problem too me so I would not bother. A good observation though for those with larger cooking vessels.

Steve

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