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Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby Lophophaps » Wed 03 Apr, 2019 7:44 pm

The 'Where Am I?' game is quite popular, but there have been a number of entries from people who didn't realise it was a Tasmania-only game. A suggestion has been made to rename the topic to be more definitive.

Some suggestions:
"GAME: Where Am I? (Tasmania)"
"GAME: Where in Tasmania Am I?"
"GAME: Tasmania - Where Am I?"

Comments about a new title would be valued. TIA.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby eggs » Wed 03 Apr, 2019 8:16 pm

my vote goes to "GAME: Tasmania - Where Am I?"
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby tastrax » Wed 03 Apr, 2019 8:41 pm

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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby peregrinator » Wed 03 Apr, 2019 9:27 pm

The naming has been puzzling me ever since I joined the forum. We've got a Tassie game as well as an Aussie game, but these classifications are of course not mutually exclusive. (Unless perhaps we rename the former as the Van Diemans Land game!) This history is obviously an accident of the history of the forum itself.

Then we have one named 'Where am I?' and t'other is 'Where is it?' To further complicate matters, Tasmania is a small chunk of the continent, all the rest is lumped into one category. I'm not saying I have a solution, just asking whether we can get some consistency. Which is probably along the lines of what Lophophaps is also asking.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby bushwalker zane » Thu 04 Apr, 2019 6:35 am

eggs wrote:my vote goes to "GAME: Tasmania - Where Am I?"

+1

Also, I guess it's just a known thing that this game is a Tassie only one. The first post on page 1 does state:

walkinTas wrote:How well do you know Tasmania?

Here is a little forum game called "Where am I" ... First to guess the right location gets to post the next picture of a location somewhere in Tasmania.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby Lophophaps » Thu 04 Apr, 2019 7:05 am

Thanks. The first point is clear - the name needs clarification. The option "GAME: Tasmania - Where Am I?" has the most appeal so far, but it's early days. Maybe also make the non-Tassie game in the same format. I want to get this right the first time so methinks waiting a while for more comments is best. I also want to wait for NNW to get back from her trip, may be a week or so. She posts a lot (I pay attention to such things) and if I get it wrong she will wallop me.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby bushwalker zane » Thu 04 Apr, 2019 7:58 am

Lophophaps wrote:...and if I get it wrong she will wallop me.
:lol:
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby potato » Thu 04 Apr, 2019 8:04 am

Having fallen victim to the name, I support the change and I'm very happy to wait for NNW to get back and comment.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby Son of a Beach » Thu 04 Apr, 2019 10:33 am

peregrinator wrote:one named 'Where am I?' and t'other is 'Where is it?'


This distinction is deliberate and for good reason (in my opinion). The "Where Am I?", being Tasmania-only is theoretically easy (at least in some cases) to figure out what is in the picture, and therefore an extra dimension of difficulty is deliberately added by asking not what the picture is of, but where it was taken from. The "Where Is It?" games cover a much broader area and therefore were expected to be more difficult to figure out what the picture was of, and therefore didn't need the extra difficulty of trying to figure out where the picture was taken from.

Back to the main topic of discussion though... I'm in favour of a name change for the "Where Am I?" game to make it clear in the title that it is Tassie-Only.

Consistency of titles for all of the "Where?" games is a good idea, so long as they continue to distinguish between, Where Am I and Where Is It (as the games were originally intended to be different in that respect).
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby doogs » Thu 04 Apr, 2019 2:29 pm

Kinda sad to see it renamed as it was part of the forum before it went mainland. But I guess it probably is the correct thing to do to distinguish it from tuther one.. my vote would be for 'The Original and Best Where am I Game - Tasmania'. There's nothing parochial with my opinions!!
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby Walk_fat boy_walk » Thu 04 Apr, 2019 3:20 pm

Agree with eggs and co's responses. I think suggesting "Where am I on a map of Tassie?" might get me into trouble.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby Tortoise » Thu 04 Apr, 2019 7:58 pm

peregrinator wrote:Then we have one named 'Where am I?' and t'other is 'Where is it?' To further complicate matters, Tasmania is a small chunk of the continent, all the rest is lumped into one category. I'm not saying I have a solution, just asking whether we can get some consistency.

I love the challenge of the 'Where-am-I?', as opposed to 'Where-is-it?'. But I can't imagine that being feasible for the mainland. And the game already moves more slowly than the Tassie one. So I think different approaches are actually appropriate for the two vastly different contexts.
Oops - just saw SoaB's post above. I agree!

My thought:
Game: Where-am-I (Tassie)
would match the current Aussie and international topics.

I think there's some confusion about whether or not we can post Tassie photos in the Aussie game. There's nothing in the game rules I can see to suggest we can't. I reckon it makes sense to include non-obscure Tassie photos, based on the places commonly visited by bushwalkers from the mainland - like the Overland Track, Mt Anne area, Western Arthurs, Walls of Jerusalem, Freycinet etc. And, of course, people only need to identify what they are looking at, which would include more people.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby johnw » Fri 05 Apr, 2019 12:24 am

"GAME: Tasmania - Where Am I?"
"GAME: Australia (All) - Where Is This?"
"GAME: International - Where Is This?"
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby Lophophaps » Fri 05 Apr, 2019 6:06 am

Thanks for your very useful posts.

The Tassie game title is
GAME: Where am I?
and says
All you have to do is guess where I am standing to take the picture.

The Aussie game title is
Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)
and says
Firstly, you will be guessing “Where is it” ... where is the subject in the photo. Of course, to do that you will need to work out what it is you are looking at. For added interest, but not required for a win, the Poster can optional also ask you to guess “Where am I?”

So the game titles and rules are similar.

It seems to me that the Tassie game should have the word "Tasmania" in it to avoid pics of other parts of Australia being posted. I like a similar form of words. To this end, I'm looking at
Game: Tasmania - Where am I?
Game: Australia - Where is it?
Is the above okay?

Should the two forms of words be the same, either where am I or where is it? Should the Aussie topic have a rule that says that Tassie pics should be in the Tassie thread? I do not know. I'd like to focus on these points.

Views on the above are sought.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby bernieq » Fri 05 Apr, 2019 1:05 pm

IMO ;

Game: Tasmania - Where am I?
Game: Australia - Where is it?
Game: World - Where is it?

... and the Australia game should include Tassie (because the Tassie game pics are frequently obscure - btw, marvellous how well you guys recognise stuff). I would expect Tassie photos in the Aus game would be in an easier class than those in the Tassie game.

For consistency, World game should include Australia. "International - Where is it?" is problematic because not all players are Australian.

... and keep the games as they are - "where is it" and "where am I".

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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby peregrinator » Fri 05 Apr, 2019 1:08 pm

(1) I think the word game could be changed to quiz. Look up a thesaurus and a dictionary if you don’t understand why I make this suggestion. There are elements in common, but the essential difference is as follows. Game: a pastime, an entertainment, etc. Quiz: a test of knowledge, an examination, etc.

(2) How can we have one quiz named Tasmania, and a second one named Australia, when the latter category includes the former? (By the way, I think your use of Australia rather than the informal and possibly inane Aussie is certainly an improvement.) It is difficult though to come up with better terminology without it being inelegant. Other states and territories, perhaps.

(3) Are Where am I? and Where is it? unnecessary? Let the poster state the question or questions in each case.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby north-north-west » Thu 11 Apr, 2019 10:18 am

bushwalker zane wrote:
Lophophaps wrote:...and if I get it wrong she will wallop me.
:lol:


My arms aren't that long.

Makes sense to have clarification for the original (and best) game, and to have some consistency across all three. I shall support the majority vote for the new names, although I do think doogs has come up with an ideal title . . .
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby potato » Thu 11 Apr, 2019 10:21 am

north-north-west wrote:
bushwalker zane wrote:
Lophophaps wrote:...and if I get it wrong she will wallop me.
:lol:


My arms aren't that long.

Makes sense to have clarification for the original (and best) game, and to have some consistency across all three. I shall support the majority vote for the new names, although I do think doogs has come up with an ideal title . . .


Best... Hmm.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby north-north-west » Thu 11 Apr, 2019 10:58 am

It gets the most action and has superior photos. And more of moi. What's not to love?
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby potato » Thu 11 Apr, 2019 11:38 am

Much to love but I guess the mainlanders will need to put some better photos up.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby Lophophaps » Fri 12 Apr, 2019 5:09 pm

north-north-west wrote:It gets the most action and has superior photos. And more of moi. What's not to love?

Good points. I know that you do not walk with a bushwalking club but you may have a club, hence my wallop comment.

It's not a game but it is a quiz, so the new possible is
Quiz: Tasmania - Where am I?
Quiz: Australia - Where is it?
Or should they both be Where am I or Where is it?

Everyone, please state your preferences and reasons. Wallop is not a preference.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby ribuck » Fri 12 Apr, 2019 5:25 pm

"Where is it?" Works fine for the Australia title, because when necessary people do specify that "it" means the place from which the photo was taken.
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Re: Renaming the Tassie where am I topic

Postby peregrinator » Sun 14 Apr, 2019 7:07 pm

ribuck wrote:"Where is it?" Works fine for the Australia title, because when necessary people do specify that "it" means the place from which the photo was taken.


I agree with that. But what would I know? I've contributed solely to the inferior mainland quiz. That could change if someone wants to send me an aeroplane ticket to Tas and back.
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