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A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

Forum rules

Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

Common words
Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg
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Onda over?

Sun 05 May, 2019 3:21 pm

Anyone managed more than a couple of nights and still loving it?
Haven't had any grass under it, just hard earth, so this has me tossing and turning no doubt.
Managed a couple of goes at torso length and will pursue my masochistic tendencies probably once more.
Used it down to about 7 degrees so warmth was not an issue.
I reckon if I weighed 20 kilograms less it might do. Got a nice bruised left hip one night.
Anybody loving it's rubbery ripples?

Re: Onda over?

Sun 05 May, 2019 4:55 pm

I used mine on a 5 night trip when I first got it.

I was on soft alpine grass and felt every single stick, pebble, lump and bump under me... I went back to the zlite after that. The weight savings weren’t worth it.

I’ll keep it for a supplementary snow mat.

Thumbs down from me.

Re: Onda over?

Mon 06 May, 2019 8:45 am

Same same, lighter, wider and even less comfortable than a $10 Kmart EVA mat. It's a hip-killer for sure.
Holding onto mine to see if it works better than the 1mm Silver-lined mat I'm currently using as a snow mat on top of my Xlite

Re: Onda over?

Mon 06 May, 2019 4:44 pm

Went to sleep,
lying in a bed of roses,
woke up,
lying on a .......
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