Bushwalk Australia

@geoskid, yes I suspect it would take me a few days to get used to walking in long grass as well.

Still, growing up walking here in venomland (yeah, I mean Australia) means we are well-trained to be on the alert for critter danger in other places as long as we know what to look out for. Being able to relax and let down your guard in NZ sounds blissful - except for those sandflies

Lucky for the typo. Lol

Always gets me why noah decided to take to mozzies on his big boat.

walkerchris77 wrote:Always gets me why noah decided to take to mozzies on his big boat.

Sort of answers the question they were not there and it did not really happen as told in the Fairy Tale .

corvus wrote:

walkerchris77 wrote:Always gets me why noah decided to take to mozzies on his big boat.

Sort of answers the question they were not there and it did not really happen as told in the Fairy Tale .

But baby mozzies live in water :p

Bubbalouie wrote:

corvus wrote:

walkerchris77 wrote:Always gets me why noah decided to take to mozzies on his big boat.

Sort of answers the question they were not there and it did not really happen as told in the Fairy Tale .

But baby mozzies live in water :p

In still water

I said to my priest, 'Do you think Noah did a lot of fishing on the ark?'
He said, 'He was at sea for forty days, so I imagine he did.'
I said, 'What, with only two worms?'

DanShell wrote:I get disappointed when niggling injuries/health issues/or just general soreness starts to lessen my enjoyment for a walk.

Ive had plantar fasciitis in my left foot for over 12 months now and I am just about fed up with it. Ive tried everything and wasted too much money trying to get it fixed but no one seems to be able to fix it. Help it yes, fix it no.

So after every day I am in all sorts of pain, so thats my mate or dislike when bushwalking.

I had the vampire's bite of PF for some time, and tried loads of stuff before beating it. I'm now studying physiotherapy so I can see why my eventual treatment options worked.

It's a very individual dysfunction but a night splint, while sounding extreme, is comfortable, cheap and very effective - it pulls your foot and digits into dorsiflexion (angled toward the head) as you sleep, which means any healing done overnight in the plantar fascia occurs in the stretched position. This means you do not simply tear it anew with those delightful first few steps in the morning (I recall it being like a rusty nail in my heel). This re-tearing is why PF is so stubborn and with the night splint there is zero pain upon weightbearing in the morning. I used the Strassburg Sock, which looks like a normal knee-high sock but has an adjustable tension strap running from the toes to the upper lip of the sock beneath the knee. Tighten this until the foot is level (most people point their toes overnight).

If you're willing to learn (and waste a few metres of Elastoplast teaching yourself), low-dye taping is *extremely* effective in deloading your plantar fascia. You can't use it every day due to eventual irritation but it's a very, very useful skill if you are really laid low by it on the trail or anywhere else. Problem gone, until the tape comes off. YouTube is your friend.

But the night splint cleared up my PF within two weeks after nearly three months of misery. That and low-dye taping are all you need. OTC shoe inserts are useful, but only the silicone versions as they're resilient, washable and the support is adjustable. Rolling helps, but a golf ball in the shower is better. Get warm and really grind it in like you mean it.

MickyB wrote:I said to my priest, 'Do you think Noah did a lot of fishing on the ark?'
He said, 'He was at sea for forty days, so I imagine he did.'
I said, 'What, with only two worms?'

ha ha ha ha. Lmao.

quill wrote:

DanShell wrote:I get disappointed when niggling injuries/health issues/or just general soreness starts to lessen my enjoyment for a walk.

Ive had plantar fasciitis in my left foot for over 12 months now and I am just about fed up with it. Ive tried everything and wasted too much money trying to get it fixed but no one seems to be able to fix it. Help it yes, fix it no.

So after every day I am in all sorts of pain, so thats my mate or dislike when bushwalking.

I had the vampire's bite of PF for some time, and tried loads of stuff before beating it. I'm now studying physiotherapy so I can see why my eventual treatment options worked.

It's a very individual dysfunction but a night splint, while sounding extreme, is comfortable, cheap and very effective - it pulls your foot and digits into dorsiflexion (angled toward the head) as you sleep, which means any healing done overnight in the plantar fascia occurs in the stretched position. This means you do not simply tear it anew with those delightful first few steps in the morning (I recall it being like a rusty nail in my heel). This re-tearing is why PF is so stubborn and with the night splint there is zero pain upon weightbearing in the morning. I used the Strassburg Sock, which looks like a normal knee-high sock but has an adjustable tension strap running from the toes to the upper lip of the sock beneath the knee. Tighten this until the foot is level (most people point their toes overnight).

If you're willing to learn (and waste a few metres of Elastoplast teaching yourself), low-dye taping is *extremely* effective in deloading your plantar fascia. You can't use it every day due to eventual irritation but it's a very, very useful skill if you are really laid low by it on the trail or anywhere else. Problem gone, until the tape comes off. YouTube is your friend.

But the night splint cleared up my PF within two weeks after nearly three months of misery. That and low-dye taping are all you need. OTC shoe inserts are useful, but only the silicone versions as they're resilient, washable and the support is adjustable. Rolling helps, but a golf ball in the shower is better. Get warm and really grind it in like you mean it.

Thanks very much for the advice. I still suffer from it and I am making a very concerted effort to try and finally rid this thing. Its been well over 12 months, so enough is enough.

The frozen bottle helps temporarily, so does the golf ball. I recently purchased some things that strap under my foot to help support the arch, whilst they may be helping, I still suffer.

I will now try a version of the Strassburg Sock. Your professional theory sounds reasonable to me. I am willing to give anything a go.

I will also buy some tape and teach myself to strap my foot when it is giving me grief on the trail. Which it does bad if I am not taking drugs

Thanks again.

I had pf. The foot dude told me to roll it on frozen water bottles while watching the box and tape it up so it bends your foot in abit to take the pressure off. .
Worked a treat.

I did hear on the radio about some new painless treatment but i forgot what it was. If i hear the add again ill post some info. I think ron barrassi was doing the add.

DanShell wrote:

quill wrote:

DanShell wrote:I get disappointed when niggling injuries/health issues/or just general soreness starts to lessen my enjoyment for a walk.

Ive had plantar fasciitis in my left foot for over 12 months now and I am just about fed up with it. Ive tried everything and wasted too much money trying to get it fixed but no one seems to be able to fix it. Help it yes, fix it no.

So after every day I am in all sorts of pain, so thats my mate or dislike when bushwalking.

I had the vampire's bite of PF for some time, and tried loads of stuff before beating it. I'm now studying physiotherapy so I can see why my eventual treatment options worked.

It's a very individual dysfunction but a night splint, while sounding extreme, is comfortable, cheap and very effective - it pulls your foot and digits into dorsiflexion (angled toward the head) as you sleep, which means any healing done overnight in the plantar fascia occurs in the stretched position. This means you do not simply tear it anew with those delightful first few steps in the morning (I recall it being like a rusty nail in my heel). This re-tearing is why PF is so stubborn and with the night splint there is zero pain upon weightbearing in the morning. I used the Strassburg Sock, which looks like a normal knee-high sock but has an adjustable tension strap running from the toes to the upper lip of the sock beneath the knee. Tighten this until the foot is level (most people point their toes overnight).

If you're willing to learn (and waste a few metres of Elastoplast teaching yourself), low-dye taping is *extremely* effective in deloading your plantar fascia. You can't use it every day due to eventual irritation but it's a very, very useful skill if you are really laid low by it on the trail or anywhere else. Problem gone, until the tape comes off. YouTube is your friend.

But the night splint cleared up my PF within two weeks after nearly three months of misery. That and low-dye taping are all you need. OTC shoe inserts are useful, but only the silicone versions as they're resilient, washable and the support is adjustable. Rolling helps, but a golf ball in the shower is better. Get warm and really grind it in like you mean it.

Thanks very much for the advice. I still suffer from it and I am making a very concerted effort to try and finally rid this thing. Its been well over 12 months, so enough is enough.

The frozen bottle helps temporarily, so does the golf ball. I recently purchased some things that strap under my foot to help support the arch, whilst they may be helping, I still suffer.

I will now try a version of the Strassburg Sock. Your professional theory sounds reasonable to me. I am willing to give anything a go.

I will also buy some tape and teach myself to strap my foot when it is giving me grief on the trail. Which it does bad if I am not taking drugs

Thanks again.

No worries at all, keep us updated on how you go. Everyone is different but if you have not yet tried a night splint, I'm confident you will see a marked improvement. Just being able to walk pain-free when you first get up is worth the price of admission.

You say 'a version of'... are you making your own? Apparently it's easy enough to do, the tricky part is tensioning the top of the sock so it doesn't slip down.

Some people (including me) find when they first use it, it can make the big toe ache a little as it's under compressive force all night. This clears up soon - if not, apparently cutting a short length of thick cardboard tube and sliding it over your toe before putting on the sock very efficiently takes care of the problem.

Low-dye taping is heavenly. Once you get good at it, it's like a hammock for your foot.

Best of luck, I know how much it hurts.

What I hate,
Campsites accessible by 4WD.
Just got back from Lerderderg Gorge walk.
Took my son on his 1st.
Arrived at the campsite to find a dozen 4wd's with generators playing rave music until 2:00am.
Apparently they were having a buck's party, and were offering to drive out any walkers who wanted a lift back to their cars...

quill wrote:
No worries at all, keep us updated on how you go. Everyone is different but if you have not yet tried a night splint, I'm confident you will see a marked improvement. Just being able to walk pain-free when you first get up is worth the price of admission.

You say 'a version of'... are you making your own? Apparently it's easy enough to do, the tricky part is tensioning the top of the sock so it doesn't slip down.

Some people (including me) find when they first use it, it can make the big toe ache a little as it's under compressive force all night. This clears up soon - if not, apparently cutting a short length of thick cardboard tube and sliding it over your toe before putting on the sock very efficiently takes care of the problem.

Low-dye taping is heavenly. Once you get good at it, it's like a hammock for your foot.

Best of luck, I know how much it hurts.

Yes 'A version' is my own design I have some toe to thigh motorcross socks (they are designed to go under my knee braces) so I used one of those and tied it off near my knee with a compression bandage. The bandage doesn't need to be tight to hold the sock. It works perfectly.

Monday morning I had zero pain in those first few steps. I also changed my arch support strap things I use to the sturdiest insert. My foot was hurting after about 6 hours at work on the factory floor. And once rested for 30 minutes during my meal break, the first few steps were painful.

This morning I again had zero pain on the first few steps.

I am being very pedantic to not put my foot down until I have my arch inserts under my feet. Now that I understand that there is a slight healing process overnight, I am making very sure I don't tear it again the next morning.

Its going to be a slow process, but after 12-18 months I am finally happy that perhaps I may be on the right track. I am also going to get some tape when I go near a chemist and do the low dye taping. I am also going to buy a gel arch support insert for my work boots. Ill use my strap on arch support around home and the good gel ones at work in my boots.

Once again thanks very much.

That's amazing news - the lack of pain is a revelation, isn't it? The fascia tightens up very fast, I noticed the same, it helped firm up in my mind that if it can tighten up after 30min, then eight hours is more than enough for it to become very tight indeed, enough to perpetuate the injury with just a few small steps in the AM.

Without overloading information but just to confirm the idea overnight healing is the key to PF, the body releases a lot of growth hormone as you sleep - fascia has very poor blood supply, so relies on HGH to optimise the healing it gets from the small amount of blood it receives. Collagen has a strict structure, and so can only rebuild by laying a foundation, then rebuilding over it once the foundation is set. If you give it the chance to lay and keep that foundation, healing follows.

So glad to hear of success. Please check in in a few weeks,which is enough to know if it's right for you.

DarrenM wrote:

Just wondering, what makes new and old graffiti different, and where is the cut-off?

Difference? Just look at the knife strokes, depth and style! Worlds apart. Modern graffitis are shallow and without that depth of old.

My pet hate whilst bushwalking? Well, it's that cloth change, one that requires the removal of the pack. A simple removal of 1 piece of clothing can take 5-10mins when back on the road. What's worse? Forget a piece of gear in the middle of nowhere during the cloth change. Grrr...

I wonder if Ian still loves april?

puredingo wrote:I wonder if Ian still loves april?

Ha. Ha ha.

He May prefer June now.

As long as he stirs clear of Linda, I can tell by her writing alone she's CRAZY!!!

icefest wrote:Just wondering, what makes new and old graffiti different, and where is the cut-off?

good question. I guess it's based on the significance of the journey. A trip on the school bus and back doesn't quite make the cut.
Crazy Linda.....

This sort of grafitti falls somewhere between old and new?

When is graffiti not graffiti?

GBW, I think you have probably answered your own question.

Maybe peregrinator, but it's a bit large dont you think. A yellow marker would have done the same job.