Ent wrote:You have commercial products like Memory Maps that uses Tasmaps but many of the maps are old or poorly scanned. Not sure about OziExplorer but might have similar issues.
True ! and the idea of combining lots of functions into one device is just dumb - a GPS that is also a camera, torch, phone, pic viewer, alarm ... will also be flat !Ent wrote:a map and compass is a good idea and you can not rely on an iPhone
bernieq wrote:Memory Map and Tasmap, on the other hand, are maps (and not mapping programs).
Ent wrote:A useful app is Maps with Me that downloads a raster tile set of OSM data.
Ent wrote:GDA 66, GDA 99,
photohiker wrote:No one mentioning Nik's app Maps N Tracks?
This thread is more about what I see people carry when I am on the superhighways of bushwalking, like the OLT. Often we on this site can lead ourselves into believing everyone has an expensive rain shell, pack, stove, camera, GPS, etc. The real situation is many people make do with what they already have, and if that is a blue sleeping mat then that is what they take rather than a mega expensive Neo Air. It would not surprise me that a greater number of people walk the OLT with an iPhone (or similar smart phone) than with a GPS.
tastrax wrote:photohiker wrote:No one mentioning Nik's app Maps N Tracks?
Alas, I am on an old iphone and ipad and it wont work on either
sthughes wrote:Maps'N'Tracks will do things nothing else can. But it can be a bit techy (too much so fir me). I do look forward to the version for iOS 7 with List Map data though
GPSGuided wrote:It's Maps N Trax and only in the Australian store. Not available in the US store.
http://nixanz.com/maps-n-trax/
Ent wrote:After failing miserably with Bitmap rather wary spending more money given that the month that I brought it the developer announced that he was abandoning it. Plus it jammed up when attempting to load maps in. However it was far better than Memory Maps for getting a reliable tracking log.
Swampy460 wrote:Now I have been given a set full set of topo's for NSW on a usb, that are in OZF2 files and have bought Memory maps but it doesn't seem to accept them, is there another app that will accept these files or can they be converted to another form of file that will be accepted.
bernieq wrote:Swampy460 wrote:OZF2 is a porprietary OziExplorer format - these files won't open in any other application (afaiaa).
Ent wrote:Hi Son of a Beach
Ok, how do I do the upgrade?
Oh and are aware how many iPhones have been bricked by Apple upgrades?The standard Apple line is not their upgrade but a hardware fault in the phone caused by misuse. A very large group of not happy campers with Apple. Yes an upgrade bricked my iPhone but a low level reload done by Jessups fixed it. This bricking of iPhones is well known so you might find users very reluctant to update as Apple is making huge amounts of money by creating a software failure.
Cheers
Ent wrote:Hi SOB
Very novel way to upgrade. Given my memory likely I will never fluke the discount price.
Does the current version run on OS 6.1? It was the 6 to 6.1 that did my phone in. Jessups in Launceston do a regular trade and their success rate is two in three in getting them to work again. For the failures you need to send your phone to Apple and buy a reconditioned replacement. Apple just do not understand that for many the iPhone is the primary communication device. Apple's marketing approach to forcing users to the smaller SIM card stuffed up the old strategy of keeping an old faithful in the cupboard for such events.
What I am saying is there is growing resistance to upgrade iPhone firmware so please consider carefully forcing upgrades.
As for the pay for upgrades Mud Map were slammed pillar to post on a 4wd forum for doing the same thing. So feelings do run high on this issue.
Ps
Re looked at Maps with Me and it is very impressive for smoothness of design. Add in a GPS status type screen and for the OSM community it would be a great backup to a proper GPS.
Son of a Beach wrote:GPSGuided wrote:It's Maps N Trax and only in the Australian store. Not available in the US store.
http://nixanz.com/maps-n-trax/
No, this is incorrect. Maps n Trax is available in all the iOS App Stores world wide. It is most popular in Australia and Europe, but does also have quite a substantial user base in Russia and the USA (and many other countries).
Ent wrote:What I am saying is there is growing resistance to upgrade iPhone firmware
Ent wrote:PS Photohiker.
I think it is about time that you browsed a few forums with people that have experience problems and spoke to repair agents like the one I did. They had a pile on their desk that they were attempting to revive. It is rather more common than your confident and unsupported words suggest.
As for JB? Who are they? Oh yes a retail chain based in big cities. My phone like most Tasssie iPhones comes from the communication company, Telstra. Maybe I should have brought it from Vodaphone and had no coverage, but hey I live in the area that I walk which is regional Australia.
Ent wrote:Hi SOB
I get the feeling from you and a few other developers that the app store can be rather ridged in its distribution model.
Map Map 2 managed to come up with a way to distribute copies free to users that it issued a special code to.
For me the "perfect" GPS app has
1. A status screen as I describe earlier that is optimized for readability. The time is coming for you to need glasses so better start planning for this
2. Then the ability to use OSM maps offline, which means they need to be in vector format. Ok my interest is OSM but apps that rely on the raster tile method are just a pain and practically useless for bushwalking. Also vector gives ultimately the option to use routing. Yes the last is a big step but remember this is my ideal not necessarily possible app.
3. Did like the ability to view satellite imagery on Mud Maps 2 but unless this can be loaded for off line use any cache method is dangerous as the cache can be cleared out when you need it. I understand that licensing conditions may will stop this sensible approach. Satellite imagery is where an iPhone kills any GPS due to the better screen.
4. The ability to use raster maps scanned from JPG if commercial ones can not be got for a sensible price. As much as I *&%$#! and moan about Tasmap they are still the best maps by a country model for bushwalking. I fully understand that Tasmap is asleep at the wheel so getting commercial quality maps from them is a dead loss so scanning printed ones is the only option to get maps that do not come with a pension card and scanning so bad as to be almost useless in certain areas. Surely all you need to do is to define co-ordinates for the top left corner and bottom right corner, so four numbers, to calibrate the maps? The ability to do this on the app is the key. I know that it is shock to Apple users but most of the world uses Microsoft computers and the last thing most people want to do is learn mapping programs to do this on a PC. Especially ones that are geek driven. Remember, what made an iPhone a success it is simple to use. Surely just emailing the scanned map to the iPhone and calibrating it is not a bridge too far?
photohiker wrote:Ent wrote:PS Photohiker.
I think it is about time that you browsed a few forums with people that have experience problems and spoke to repair agents like the one I did. They had a pile on their desk that they were attempting to revive. It is rather more common than your confident and unsupported words suggest.As for JB? Who are they? Oh yes a retail chain based in big cities. My phone like most Tasssie iPhones comes from the communication company, Telstra. Maybe I should have brought it from Vodaphone and had no coverage, but hey I live in the area that I walk which is regional Australia.
?? Sorry, I thought you visited the phone forums? JB is JailBreak. It's a method of wrenching control of your iPhone from Apple, specifically allows the user to install programs not authorised by the fruit company. Works well until the wheels fall off, usually at upgrade time...
Ent wrote:So Photohiker by all means adopt Smiley's approach but it is a common enough problem that I see a few 4S with the update icon flagged and the owner reluctant to do the update.
Ent wrote:Lets hope I remember the novel update feature.
Can you download permanently satellite images for off line use?
On raster tiles. I think OSM uses 16 levels of tiles so one app using such a method blew 200MBs of my data download allowance and did not even get out of Launceston! The problem with raster is you have the headache of choosing a compromise on level of detail and download size. OSM is constantly being updated so big downloads are not good. On my Garmin I can download complete data for all of Tasmania in under four MBs using OSM. Maps with Me all of Australia for 110 MBs (thanks sthughes for pointing out it is vector as the images are identical to other tile map apps). Mud Map for Australia takes around 200MBs. Using raster tiles is hopeless in comparison and a very poor substitute, in fact so poor after trying it I gave up. Yes you can travel across Australian on a ride on lawnmower but there are better ways to get from Perth to Sydney . I have nothing against ride on lawnmowers but, seriously?
On eye sight. When younger my father claimed that I will never understand until I needed reading glasses, as I was puzzled why he could not read the microfiche I had handed him. Yeap, he was right and believe me you will come around as fifty nears!
I just like the idea that you can start with a basic Garmin type status screen and then work up into mapping. Strangely no app that I can find does this.
One passing comment. I am surprised that in the day of the 64GB iPhone that memory issue exist. Apple must have some very poor memory garbage cleaning logic or not understand swap files. While things might take time they should not fall over with memory faults. But if that is an issue then yes you have to design around this, and this must be frustrating as hell especially if you do not know the exact threshold to run the memory to. Tracing operating system issues is something that makes you grow old before your time.
Apple docs for UIImage wrote:You should avoid creating UIImage objects that are greater than 1024 x 1024 in size. Besides the large amount of memory such an image would consume, you may run into problems when using the image as a texture in OpenGL ES or when drawing the image to a view or layer. This size restriction does not apply if you are performing code-based manipulations, such as resizing an image larger than 1024 x 1024 pixels by drawing it to a bitmap-backed graphics context. In fact, you may need to resize an image in this manner (or break it into several smaller images) in order to draw it to one of your views. (Apple Documentation)
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