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Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2018 9:10 am
by emma_melbourne
I am wanting to do a Mexican bean dish on trail, but I can't seem to find any rehydrated Mexican beans / pinto beans / black beans / refried beans in Australia.

There's a really yummy looking recipe on Andrew Skurka's blog:
https://andrewskurka.com/2015/backpacki ... os-cheese/

Any thoughts on how best to do a Mexican bean dish in Australia, given I can't seem to find any dehydrated on the market?

I thought maybe to buy black beans raw, and boil them for 3 minutes, with roughly 100 grams to 2.2 cups of water.

Or perhaps bring water to boil and pour boiling water into freezer bag with the beans.

Has anyone tried anything like that on trail? I will try experimenting this week but any input / people's experiences cooking Mexican beans would be appreciated?

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2018 9:36 am
by CasualNerd
I haven't tried black beans specifically but in my experience raw dry beans take a lot lot longer than 3 minutes to cook.

Ideally you could cook them at home and dehydrate ?

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2018 10:13 am
by ofuros
Woolies has canned, mexican mix, four bean mix, red, black, cannellini etc etc...maybe you could drain & dehydrate those & use them as a base ?

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2018 10:42 am
by Moondog55
Even with pre-soaking in lime water beans will take a minimum of 20 minutes of cooking and if Red Kidney beans at least 3 minutes of this has to be a full rolling boil.
I like bean burritos myself. I've looked at getting a dehydrator but we haven't yet bought one.
Red lentils cook quick but don't taste anywhere near as yummy in tacos and burritos

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2018 10:56 am
by Mark F
I have used the canned kidney beans in Chili Con Carne that was later dehydrated. They worked well - just added to the mix while cooking the mince etc.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2018 10:58 am
by Lamont
I looked for the Sante Fe brand for ages as well-no luck.
The seppos seem to have it all over us for dehydrated meal variety.
The refried (Mexican) version is pulpy/pureed/mashed and has flavours already mixed in which may make it more easily spread thinly and dried in the oven, perhaps?
Cooking dried bean from scratch at the camp would take quite a while and use a lot of gas.
What about, blend some onions and garlic, dead 'orse, Red wine vinegar, sugar, Pimenton and Cannellini -my favourite and I think one of the perfect nutritional beans (can be bought in tins softened ready to eat) cook them down for about half an hour.
I don't think you should use any oil in the mix for stability, but carry some extra virgin in your rucksack and add it at the end-20mls per person.
Spread the blended and cooked beans on -baking paper would work I think?
150 degrees for a few hours?
Cool and dry in oven?
Then blend the dried remnants into powder?
I have carried forms of so called Mexican seasoning and it is great. Add some more at the end to taste, but beware, some of it is full of rubbish. Make your own-even better-get some Pimenton it is excellente.
Get some and cheddar or savoury shapes crumble them in at the end.
Might this work?

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2018 3:41 pm
by Neo
Vego nachos is one of my staples. Usually night two :)

Plain corn chips, OK if they get crumbled! Half a small brie chopped on top.

I use some fine diced onion (could use dried) with a mini can of 4 beans or corn. And some tomatoes from the lunch stash. Some fine diced capsicum adds another variant .

Send me a PM if you would like my Mexican seasoning recipe. Super easy taco style and works for nachos or whatever.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Mon 17 Dec, 2018 8:20 pm
by Eljimberino
If anyone can find the Santa Fe type instant refried beans postage to Australia, I’ll shake their hand.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Mon 17 Dec, 2018 8:44 pm
by Lamont
Yo también.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec, 2018 6:25 am
by Zapruda
Eljimberino wrote:If anyone can find the Santa Fe type instant refried beans postage to Australia, I’ll shake their hand.


I look all the time in the vain hope that they will appear. No luck. Maybe we should all do a group buy and get them through a forwarding service.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec, 2018 5:12 pm
by Lamont
S I'm in for some I reckon.
These can be eaten cold can't they?

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec, 2018 5:32 pm
by Mark F
You can buy tins of refried beans at the supermarket https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/187333/old-el-paso-refried-beans and dehydrate yourself while adjusting the seasoning to achieve whatever Santa Fe style is - what am I missing in satisfying this common yearning? Anybody looked in Costco?

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec, 2018 5:48 pm
by Lamont
It's the convenience for me Mark. I'm just a lazy pillock. Sometimes it's just go time and I would like this as part of my selection. Ready to grab.
Still haven't got around to making Zapruda's hummus.
Maybe I will have to go into the refried beans and Zapruda hummus darkroom on my hols and see what develops.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec, 2018 5:54 pm
by Mark F

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec, 2018 6:05 pm
by Lamont
MAAARRRRKK.

Might have to restock this while I am there
https://www.aldi.com.au/en/groceries/li ... sky-700ml/

and this to put in the freezer
https://www.aldi.com.au/en/groceries/li ... a-700ml-2/

Looks like it's off to Aldo as my Mum would say.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec, 2018 8:50 am
by Zapruda
Mark F wrote:You can buy tins of refried beans at the supermarket https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/187333/old-el-paso-refried-beans and dehydrate yourself while adjusting the seasoning to achieve whatever Santa Fe style is - what am I missing in satisfying this common yearning? Anybody looked in Costco?


Yes, looked in Costco the other day and no luck. Good hotdogs though!

I tried dehydrating some old el paso refried beans a while ago on your recommendation, Mark. It wasn't very successful, sadly (my fault I'm sure). My partner also hated the smell of anything dehydrating in our apartment.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sat 22 Dec, 2018 8:48 pm
by Trundlers
Emma, check out Patagonia.com.au and look at the provisions section. Dehydrated bean dishes that taste pretty good. But they frequently get out of stock.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sun 23 Dec, 2018 6:52 am
by Neo
Santa came early, two books Extreme Gourmet and Self Rescue by David Fasulo & Mike Clelland.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec, 2018 2:13 pm
by coryjohnrist
I have searched high and wide here in Perth for Dehydrated Beans, no one has them and say they have never even seen them here. Have tried making my own from scratch (soak/cook/dehydrate) but have yet to hit the sweet spot. I saw a vid on youtube of a hiker who bought a BUCKET of them at Walmart in the US.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec, 2018 6:08 pm
by Lamont
I checked Patagonia from trundlers link above-- "coming soon" Look out!!!!

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 8:54 am
by Moondog55
https://selfreliantschool.com/dehydrati ... ook-beans/
https://www.trail.recipes/dehydrating12 ... ing-meals/
Just looked online
You don't need a dedicated dehydrator if you have a convection oven and spare time and I like the idea of exploded beans for quicker rehydration time. I might give the dried cooked beans a trial

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Mon 08 Apr, 2019 9:42 pm
by rustyjus
After reading this post, I got inspired and made skurkas bean recipe and it turned out to be one of the best meals over a 7 night hike on the SCT.

I purchased a can of refried beans and a sachet of taco spice mix, corn chips and Jalepenoes (to add a bit of heat)from Woolworths.

I also steamed some rice as well...The rice proved better when I put in the fridge overnight and the rinsed the starch out of it, to seperate the grains.

I separately deyhyrdrated everything until crispy in my mums old sunbeam dehydrator (took about 6 hours) and then weighed, mixed and bagged the ingredients.

1 can of refried beans makes exactly 2 portions as per Skurkas recipe which worked out well.

1 serve took precisely 300 ml to rehydrate.. just add the mix to boiling water, bring back to boil, add cheese and then set it aside in a pot cosy for 10-15 min.

perfect .. will definitely be doing it again.

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Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Tue 09 Apr, 2019 8:32 am
by Lamont
Mmmmmm loooks good rusty. Now you should try some home made baked Beans (far better than that shop dross) using Canellini beans and you could alternate between the two. Both should weigh the same and be same volume.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Tue 16 Jun, 2020 11:23 pm
by oysters
coryjohnrist wrote:I have searched high and wide here in Perth for Dehydrated Beans, no one has them and say they have never even seen them here. Have tried making my own from scratch (soak/cook/dehydrate) but have yet to hit the sweet spot. I saw a vid on youtube of a hiker who bought a BUCKET of them at Walmart in the US.


Yeah I just watched one of Jupiter's videos.... super jealous of the whole damn buckets of these things at Walmart!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a7kwzwCpvI

I've been meaning to attempt to dehydrate my favourite lentils for ages. I think I'll start having a go tomorrow. In the past I've done a variety of fruit leathers, veggies, and rice. Dehydrating rice always works superbly. I think a blend of rice and lentils will go down quite well. Dehydrating things individually always seems to be easier than as a full meal as different parts have different drying rates.

New dehydrator though and I haven't done this for over a decade so will see how I go. Its not a bad time to do it in winter, while I'm stuck at home studying for exams.

If anyone has noticed any dehydrated beans/lentils, or rice in Aus...or bulk veggies for a reasonable price, let me know!

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Wed 17 Jun, 2020 4:13 pm
by Casparvitch
I know the question was about precooked dehydrated beans, just thought I'd add that I use these sealed packets of beans (chickpeas, black beans, kidney beans) on my walks:

https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/864033/edgell-black-bean-pouch

They're delicious (IMO tastier than canned), don't need cooking, and nice and sealed so they won't go off on you. Of course there's the downside that they aren't dehydrated, so you are carrying some weight in water. On the other hand compared with tinned beans, at least they aren't sitting in brine.

In the summer I even took a dozen or so packets across to NZ, no issues in customs :) I just checked my pantry, I have 6 packets there waiting for the next trip...

I cook some rice, fry the beans (1 packet = 100g per person) in olive oil and add some chips and [a tonne of] spice mix and I have an easy and luxurious meal - light on the gas usage too.

Probably a bit heavier than a lot of you guys carry, but I haven't found any vego dehydrated packet meals that are are nice and don't cost a fortune. I also can't bring myself to dehydrate things as the energy usage seems huge, rather just carry a bit more.

Re: Mexican beans on trail?

PostPosted: Wed 17 Jun, 2020 6:16 pm
by Zapruda
Casparvitch wrote:I know the question was about precooked dehydrated beans, just thought I'd add that I use these sealed packets of beans (chickpeas, black beans, kidney beans) on my walks:

https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/864033/edgell-black-bean-pouch

They're delicious (IMO tastier than canned), don't need cooking, and nice and sealed so they won't go off on you. Of course there's the downside that they aren't dehydrated, so you are carrying some weight in water. On the other hand compared with tinned beans, at least they aren't sitting in brine.

In the summer I even took a dozen or so packets across to NZ, no issues in customs :) I just checked my pantry, I have 6 packets there waiting for the next trip...

I cook some rice, fry the beans (1 packet = 100g per person) in olive oil and add some chips and [a tonne of] spice mix and I have an easy and luxurious meal - light on the gas usage too.

Probably a bit heavier than a lot of you guys carry, but I haven't found any vego dehydrated packet meals that are are nice and don't cost a fortune. I also can't bring myself to dehydrate things as the energy usage seems huge, rather just carry a bit more.


I love those packets, especially the black bean. Great for summer when I don’t bring a stove. A bit of oil and some spices yum!