backpack roller trail trolley thingy

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backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby trekker76 » Sat 15 Dec, 2018 1:09 pm

Guys obviously I am struggling with applicable search terms. :mrgreen:
Are there more 'offroad wheeled' versions of your generic luggage trolleys out there?
Generic Example: https://shared1.ad-lister.co.uk/GetImag ... e6fd&num=3

I am looking for options for people to traverse fairly easy trails and can walk well but who cannot carry a heavy pack. Some durability and a decent diameter wheel( as opposed to plastic rollers or casters) would be needed. I recall some custom versions being used by the long range road walkers but was wondering if anything is on the regular market? Could be something fairly obvious folks are using, I haven't had much luck putting in the right search term
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby Moondog55 » Sat 15 Dec, 2018 1:14 pm

All the units I have seen mentioned have been home made, usually using small pushbike wheels or similar and only a single axle
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby trekker76 » Sat 15 Dec, 2018 1:37 pm

Thanks Moondoog , might look at making something.
I managed to find some production examples
The monowalker fatmate, extreme price though $1000 USD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnBPwIo1KM
Also the US meat haulers or deer hunting carts out there. https://catchthemeasy.com/best-deer-cart-reviews/

On that note 'cart' was the search term I needed, the yanks and their carts :)
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby wildwanderer » Sat 15 Dec, 2018 2:39 pm

One point to consider. The vast majority of the custom trolleys are made for firetrail/road or hard pack sand use. On most bush trails there is usually several rock obtacles to negotiate. Easy enough using legs but quite a chore to get a ladden trolley over it.

Have you considered ultra light backpacking as an alternative? In warm climates a pack weighing 5-6 kg or even lower is achievable (assuming ready access to water supplies)
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby Franco » Sat 15 Dec, 2018 3:11 pm

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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby crollsurf » Sat 15 Dec, 2018 4:09 pm

I've been known to use a wheel barrow when glamping with kids back in the day. Probably not the answer your looking for.

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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby trekker76 » Sat 15 Dec, 2018 11:01 pm

Franco wrote:http://dixonrollerpack.com/
http://carrix.ch.tripod.com/


Thanks Franco!
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby trekker76 » Sun 16 Dec, 2018 1:16 am

wildwanderer wrote:Have you considered ultra light backpacking as an alternative? In warm climates a pack weighing 5-6 kg or even lower is achievable (assuming ready access to water supplies)


The weight of supplies for multi-night still prohibitive unfortunately, also they would like to take some photography gear.
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby Moondog55 » Sun 16 Dec, 2018 8:24 am

Consider also the Chinese style wheelbarrow, with the single wheel in the centre of the load
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby norts » Sun 16 Dec, 2018 8:36 am

"Consider also the Chinese style wheelbarrow, with the single wheel in the centre of the load."
The SES use this style for stretcher carries in rough terrain.
http://www.fernorescue.com/products/bas ... r-carriers
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby Moondog55 » Sun 16 Dec, 2018 8:47 am

Scotsman called Hamish Mackinnes developed that trolley or something quite like it for the BMC around the same time he was working on the Terradactyl ice hammer. The Ferno is a lot lighter than the original it seems. but they worked very well in the Lakes District when I was there. For bushwalking with the addition of a couple of tall poles it would make a decent camp kitchen shelter too
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby tastrax » Sun 16 Dec, 2018 9:29 am

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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby trekker76 » Sun 16 Dec, 2018 11:47 am

Thanks the rescue stretchers are good but usually two person. The wheelie walker by radical is closest to the type of design I had in my head, just a basic bike trailer type thing. Price is a bit crazy, 600-800 euros but its great food for thought building my own.
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby ribuck » Mon 17 Dec, 2018 6:52 pm

I'd be inclined to find a cheap second-hand bicycle trailer off of Gumtree and modify it. Some bike trailers are made from a super light alloy.
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby trekker76 » Mon 17 Dec, 2018 9:16 pm

Im considering that too
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby Moondog55 » Mon 17 Dec, 2018 9:22 pm

I don't know what the optimum wheel size is but that could also be a consideration on rough tracks; as would be tyre size where bigger might be better, thinking fat-bike
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby CasualNerd » Mon 17 Dec, 2018 10:13 pm

The only one I've seen in use had two kid's chairs and panniers for gear, and was based over a unicycle tyre I think he said, as it had a larger diameter and width.
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby ribuck » Tue 18 Dec, 2018 5:31 am

I just remembered, when our children were small we had a second-hand Silver Cross pram. Because of the way the wheels are suspended, it was quite good for pushing along at speed when running on trails. Obviously there needed to be no scrub or trees across the path, but tree roots and stony patches were no problem.

They are about $1500 new, but there are lots of old ones around going cheap. I think they would be usable for load carrying without adaptation. Just remove the sunshade and tie on the load, with the heavy things on the bottom carry-bars, and the light but bulky things in the buggy.

This is the type of thing I'm referring to:
http://www.pramworld.co.uk/silver-cross-kensington-navy

Also, some friends of ours used an "all-terrain buggy" to take their children to orienteering events. That could also work for transporting gear:
https://www.simplybaby.co.uk/baby-pushc ... rrain.html

Oh, the memories are flooding back now. Many decades ago, I knew a guy who operated a pirate radio station. He used one of those yellow newsagent's paperboy carts to haul his radio equipment into the Royal National Park:
https://collection.maas.museum/object/349572
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby Gusto » Thu 27 Dec, 2018 10:14 pm

The Thule Chariot can be converted for hiking or Skiing [url]https://www.thule.com.au/products/multisport-trailers/thule-hikeski-carrier-conversion-kit-20100808/
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ParksVictoria have All Terrain wheelchairs that even have a small motor in them. Whilst it's not what you want. I wonder who designed them. I bet that same company could make a decent cart.

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https://parkweb.vic.gov.au/visit/improving-park-access-for-all/all-terrain-wheelchairs

https://mobilityplus.com.au/product/trailrider
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby trekker76 » Sat 29 Dec, 2018 10:29 pm

Thanks ribuck and gusto for the last suggestions. At this stage I have decided to make a narrow wheelbase cart, two wheels and long handle, just for carrying an overnight pack size cargo, maybe 40-45L worth. Some of the other persons stuff I can backpack myself and if I can keep the cart small and light enough I can lug or it or lift it over obstacles or even make creek crossings. They would like to contribute not being a burden so to speak which is another reason to give them the chance to haul the cart. How tricky I get with terrain will depend how it all works in real life. It will be good just to get them on an easy walking track for an overnighter.
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby Gusto » Sun 30 Dec, 2018 4:55 pm

If the other person wants to contribute then make them tow the wheelie cart.

Something that allows both pushing and pulling would be useful to encourage more equal participation
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Re: backpack roller trail trolley thingy

Postby craigs902 » Thu 13 Jun, 2019 5:54 pm

I have a monowalker and plan on doing the 5500km bicentennial trail in a few years. I've used it a few times now and it's money well spent, I can carry a lot more than any backpack but have no side effects of using a backpack. 35kg of weight and only 12kg on your hips. I'm doing a 5 night 120km hike in 3weeks and it's going to be a breeze using the monowalker.
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