Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

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Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Scottyk » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 3:05 pm

As many of you know I am a Trangia tragic and always looking for new ways to keep the dream alive!
The burner Trangia offer is rather heavy so I ordered a Fire Maple 117T with a view to getting it to work in the Trangia Base.
The metal clip thing from the original Trangia gas burner was removed and fitted to the 117T after its legs had been removed, took about 5 mins. The burner ends up at the same height from the pot which is important. The original 117T weighs 98gm and the new one with the Trangia clip comes in at 90gm. This compares to the original Trangia burner being 175gm.
I know it isn't the lightest stove set up still but I cut nearly 100gm off the set up without too much bother and only about $70.
Boil time are the same with 500ml of water taking about 2min 30 sec.
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby David M » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 3:18 pm

Well done.
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Avatar » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 4:52 pm

Nice. I have found the Trangia and gas burner are very efficient. Can you do some more accurate tests? In particular, gas used is much more significant than time taken.
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Scottyk » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 6:35 pm

Avatar wrote:Nice. I have found the Trangia and gas burner are very efficient. Can you do some more accurate tests? In particular, gas used is much more significant than time taken.

Just for you mate and the fact that I am curious too I did another boil test....
Water temp was about 18 C before start
Ambient temp about 23 C
Gas was the one in the picture
Trangia 27 - no lid (I don't like to use it with a gas burner)
I measured 7gm used to boil 500ml at these conditions
I think that's pretty good?
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby corvus » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 7:25 pm

Nice conversion :)
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Avatar » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 8:53 pm

500ml, 7g gas is good, especially with no lid. In one test I did, using a lid, I managed just under a litre (i.e. a full pot) using 8g (+/- 1g) in 5 mins.
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Scottyk » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 9:13 pm

Avatar wrote:500ml, 7g gas is good, especially with no lid. In one test I did, using a lid, I managed just under a litre (i.e. a full pot) using 8g (+/- 1g) in 5 mins.

yeah I would say +/- 1 with my measurements too. The scales I have are just not that accurate
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Strider » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 9:34 pm

A potentially significant downside to this is the Teangia burner is capable of running with the canister inverted, where as the FM unit is not.
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Scottyk » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 9:47 pm

Strider wrote:A potentially significant downside to this is the Teangia burner is capable of running with the canister inverted, where as the FM unit is not.

Yep, it is something to consider for sure. It's going to be light weight summer option for me.
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Picaro » Wed 19 Feb, 2014 1:40 pm

I have only used my 117T for water boiling so far, and I have the gas unit for my Trangia but yet to use it. So, in a Trangia I guess you would want good flame control, so is it up to the task for actual cooking ?
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Scottyk » Wed 19 Feb, 2014 1:53 pm

Picaro wrote:I have only used my 117T for water boiling so far, and I have the gas unit for my Trangia but yet to use it. So, in a Trangia I guess you would want good flame control, so is it up to the task for actual cooking ?

On the bench top it seemed to simmer really well, maybe even better than the trangia one. That might change out in the bush but I was impressed on the bench top.
I like to do actual cooking in the bush so that's important to me
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Picaro » Wed 19 Feb, 2014 2:06 pm

OOOh, another question....will the original burner fit on the titanium legs....you know just so theres no wasted bits.
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Scottyk » Wed 19 Feb, 2014 9:42 pm

Picaro wrote:OOOh, another question....will the original burner fit on the titanium legs....you know just so theres no wasted bits.

I don't think so. The diameter of the 117T is a bit smaller so the legs won't fit on the old trangia burner.
If I want to use the trangia burner again for cold weather it will take me about 5 min to transfer the clip back over again.
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Mountain Rocket » Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:03 pm

Thanks for posting. Have been thinking of doing something like this for my partners Trangia.
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Re: Fire Maple 117T burner in a Trangia

Postby Mark F » Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:32 pm

For an inverting burner use the Fire Maple 118 burner valve and preheat tube assembly with the 117T burner head. There are a few threads on this merger of the 118 and 117T stoves - just a screw together job.
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