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What scat is this ?

Postby Franco » Tue 17 May, 2016 11:05 am

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Three possible candidates
1) wallaby (swamp wallaby if...)
2) echidna
3) fox

all 3 pass by , it does not look like fox to me but I don't really know.
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby GBW » Tue 17 May, 2016 11:13 am

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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 17 May, 2016 11:25 am

Koala?
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby highercountry » Tue 17 May, 2016 11:48 am

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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Franco » Tue 17 May, 2016 12:21 pm

Possum
we have ring tail possums here , I would think that it is too large for one of them (not that I know...)
Koala ?
I had a look and yes it does look like it , I haven't seen a koala here but there has been an individual or two in the past.
I'll be thrilled if it was
It was close to several echidna scratchings but haven't been able to see one either, I just find the holes.
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby north-north-west » Tue 17 May, 2016 1:24 pm

Fox scat is pretty distinctive: longer, skinnier with a bit of a 'tail'. Too big for ringtail. Have no idea what echidna scat looks like . . .
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 17 May, 2016 1:37 pm

As taught at a recent koala lecture, one needs to look up for koala, and typically difficult to spot.


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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby MickyB » Tue 17 May, 2016 2:04 pm

I'm not a scat expert but IMO it looks like it's from a herbivore so I doubt it's from an echidna.
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Tortoise » Tue 17 May, 2016 7:47 pm

Looks like koala is in there with a shot:
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http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2007/09/26/2044094.htm
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Franco » Tue 17 May, 2016 8:00 pm

I collected more ..
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Tortoise » Tue 17 May, 2016 8:10 pm

Are they very hard on the outside and hairless?
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Franco » Tue 17 May, 2016 8:31 pm

Yes, hard and hairless.
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Tortoise » Tue 17 May, 2016 8:53 pm

Looks like you might have yourself some koalas, Franco. :)
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby GPSGuided » Wed 18 May, 2016 2:31 am

Were they under or around a tree?


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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby puredingo » Wed 18 May, 2016 6:32 am

Do they taste like an Eucalyptus lolly?
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Franco » Wed 18 May, 2016 4:26 pm

The previous owners had a koala looking through their bedroom window one morning but I think that in 30 years they have seen one tree times.
I am usually pretty good at spotting them but I'll keep an eye out for it.
Everything here (almost) is under trees, we live in the bush.
(we have a few koala friendly gums but not many...lots of pines)

Thank you all , I' ll post something when I know.
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Franco » Thu 19 May, 2016 9:31 am

Found more fresh poo this morning, same area but no matter how hard I look I can't see no koalas....
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby MickyB » Thu 19 May, 2016 9:45 am

Franco wrote:Found more fresh poo this morning, same area but no matter how hard I look I can't see no koalas....

As gross as this sounds cut one in half. It might show what it has eaten and help to id the animal
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby GPSGuided » Thu 19 May, 2016 9:59 am

As taught, koalas are notoriously hard to spot when they are up there. Of course, it may be something else. Set up a night vision camera. :)
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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby cajun » Thu 19 May, 2016 11:23 am

puredingo wrote:Do they taste like an Eucalyptus lolly?


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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Pteropus » Thu 19 May, 2016 11:37 am

Hi Franco,

I think what you have there is the droppings of a medium sized macropod like a wallaby or perhaps a pademelon. Looks grassy and is irregular in shape. I thought maybe bandicoot too, but it looks too grassy. But maybe look around for scratchings in the ground which might be evidence of bandicoots. Breaking some dry droppings open and see how digested the material is, and see if they look more like digested grass, leaves, fur, or generally indescribable mush.

It’s not a koala however, as koala droppings have a generally regular cylindrical shape, and if you broke them open, they have very fine evenly crushed leaf parts, and yes, they do smell eucalypty! Brushtail possum poo is similar to that of koalas but are more irregular and variable in shape and often have fur sticking out the end, and material is not as neatly/evenly digested as a koalas. See brushtail versus koala below.

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I thought I had a photo of echidna poo, but I couldn’t find it, but basically it is about as long and a similar diameter as your thumb, is brown and hard when dry, like dry mud, and when you break it open there are little “glassy” looking bits of ant exoskeletons. See here for a pic-> http://www.arkive.org/short-beaked-echi ... 30851.html

Check for wallabies feeding at night would be my bet though.

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Re: What scat is this ?

Postby Franco » Thu 19 May, 2016 2:17 pm

Someone at the Arthur Rylah Institute for Environmental Research ( I know people that know people...) commented that the one on the left is most likely from a fox, the other two from a wallaby.
I am happy about that because it means my Wally (visiting wallaby) is still alive, one of his relatives was spotted on the side of the road (dead...) a few hundred meters from here.

This is Wally

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looking at my cat..

Thanks everyone for the input.


To return the favour, if anyone is really interested in the flora and fauna at Wilsons Prom, get
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