South_Aussie_Hiker wrote:The easy solution would appear to be limiting the number of children people are having. However, this would cause a collapse of the entire global economy.
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Who is going to be the first world leader to do something about the fact we are breeding ourselves to destruction? Anyone who has seen WALL-E (the Disney kids movie) would see what we have in store for the Earth if we continue on our current path.
South_Aussie_Hiker wrote: as someone with a science/physics degree, I understand the earth and the human race is ultimately doomed as someone has said.
South_Aussie_Hiker wrote:What we are doing to this planet continues to distress me.
The entire world's economy is tied to population growth, which can not be sustained.
The easy solution would appear to be limiting the number of children people are having. However, this would cause a collapse of the entire global economy.
There were 4.5 billion people on earth when I was born - now there's roughly 7.2 billion.
Who is going to be the first world leader to do something about the fact we are breeding ourselves to destruction? Anyone who has seen WALL-E (the Disney kids movie) would see what we have in store for the Earth if we continue on our current path.
What do you think about population control?
neilmny wrote:To hell with world leaders making decisions on population control..........Hitler tried that one!
GPSGuided wrote:neilmny wrote:To hell with world leaders making decisions on population control..........Hitler tried that one!
Wrong context and comparison. Personal liberty and communal liberty are not always congruent. That's why there are laws in society.
neilmny wrote:I disagree.......who decides????????....not the power and money hungry "world leaders" mentioned by the OP.
I see the laws of society as the wrong comparison. Community laws designed to "protect" are one thing but laws designed to maintain power are another.
Everybody fixes up their own backyard it is very simple.
maddog wrote:G’day Neilmny,
Have to admit euthanizing the old would probably be a sensible option given the fertility rate been plummeting in most places (other than the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa). It would also help us deal with the bulging seniors who cost far more than they produce. They are, to be fair, not just an environmental burden, but also a financial one. Finally a measure on which IPA conservatives and radical greens can agree. With such an initiative, the developed world can be seen as doing its bit and it could be efficiently managed through the health system...........
maddog wrote:G'day Giddy,
There is no coming famine however much you may hope for one. We are producing more food with less land than ever before. And as for the Chinese, they will buy when they have money and sell when they run out. Barnaby's farm scare sounds a little like the fear we had of the Japanese in the 1980's. Sell them as much as they will buy is the lesson from history.
Also, what happened to 'peak oil'? Our Prophets have a poor track record don't they.
Cheers,
Maddog
maddog wrote:On oil, there is no doubt that there is plenty of it about. Don’t forget the Russians though, with around half of the worlds reserves, nor that the Iranians are re-entering the market. More than enough for the world’s slowly growing population...
Giddy_up wrote:Curious on your hydrocarbon numbers around Russia, care to qualify them and the means of extraction? It might be there but no one knows how to get it, maybe you do
GPSGuided wrote:Giddy_up wrote:Curious on your hydrocarbon numbers around Russia, care to qualify them and the means of extraction? It might be there but no one knows how to get it, maybe you do
Absolutely correct. There can be reserves but the cost extraction makes a significant amount uneconomical. Drive the price up any further, then alternative energy solution becomes the better economic solution. Isn't that the Saudi's strategy to destabilise the shale oil strategy in the US?
maddog wrote:More than enough for the world’s slowly growing population.
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